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Yes, Romans 1:1 should be translated "Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, proclaimed an apostle, set apart for the gospel of God. Yes, Romans 1:6 should be translated " among whom are ye also set apart in Jesus Christ Yes, Romans 1:7 should be translated "To all that are in Rome, beloved of God...

1) Kaleo does not mean chosen, or prepared beforehand. 2) In Romans 8:28, Kaleo is used to mean set apart, as in set apart according to purpose. 3) In Romans 9:23, God prepared beforehand the means into glory, which was the sacrifice of the blood of Jesus. When does a child of wrath become...

Good Grief, such denial of the obvious. Name calling will not cut the mustard. Yes, the point of the thread is the mistranslation into "called" of the Greek G2564 (kaleo) such that the meaning of the verse is misconstrued. Who is the us? Those invited or those set apart in Christ? Were...

Yes, Martin, I was mistaken in identifying Lego are the predominately rendered translation into "called" in the NASB. My bad. You are correct, the predominate rendering into "called" is "Kaleo" (G2564. The NASB renders it "called" about 148 times. However, the basic meanings of Kaleo in the...

When something is presented but not understood by the "audience" a translator will restate what was presented in an understandable format to the target audience. The action has nothing to do with whether the method of presentation is audio, visual, or both. It is all about the accurate transfer...

Let's consider Romans 9:24 KJV Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles? Does this mean we were invited, or perhaps "named?" Nope The idea is God not only chose and set apart into Christ Jews but also Gentiles. Why should the translation offer...

I fear you may be a KJV only or preferred poster, actually claiming our English translations can not be vastly improved by choosing a word or phrase to translate each of the meanings of the original language word or phrase. And yes, the Greek "Lego" word is often mistranslated or poorly...

While we are in the business of reforming the TULIP, lets address two ancillary doctrines: 1) Definition of God's Sovereignty 2) God engaging in time travel because God created time and is therefore "outside" of time. Some advocates of the TULIP also say God ordains whatsoever comes to...

If we actually believe in scripture, rather than the traditions of men which make the word of God to no effect, we would agree the TULIP needs to be reformed. Total Spiritual Inability would become Limited Spiritual Ability, the lost being able to understand spiritual milk, but NOT spiritual...

I fear Martin, you are NOT just wondering. Your effort seems to suggest all the Old Testament saints did not have to wait in Abraham's bosom to be made perfect subsequent to Christ's sacrifice upon the cross. No believer in Christ should claim He was lying when He spoke of Abraham being in...

I see I missed responding to this post of July 22, 2026. My bad! 1) No question that acceptance of the blood shed by animals foreshadowed the sacrifice of Christ. Under the Old Covenant, people accepted the benefits of the animal sacrifices by faith. Under the New Covenant, people accept...

The Greek word transliterated as "lego" appears in the New Testament about 2,343 times, and is used to mean three very different things. First, the word is used to indicate someone is optionally invited to come or go somewhere. When used in this manner, the word should be translated as...

Yet another change the subject post, dealing with my behavior. This is all they have folks, off the shelf arguments that are irrelevant to the issue, or change of subject posts. 2 Thessalonians 2:13 is addressing believers in Christ, and clearly says they were chosen "through faith in the...

Atheists see nothing wrong in lying, as they do not believe in God or His admonition to stick to the truth. That is why it seems strange for Christians to make agreements with non-Christians. As far as I know, they never keep their word. Mr. Hitler certainly didn't. So some have said they...

Translating the same word meaning (chosen) into multiple English words (such as elect and choice) only obscures the intended meaning of the inspired text.

Recently a poster presented a novel definition for G1588, saying when translated as "elect" the meaning was not chosen or chosen by God, but only chosen by God and transferred into Christ. I found no lexicon with that definition. So I thought we should take a deeper dive in case others, too...

An interesting concept is the "elevation" of tradition over truth. We can usually agree that the inspired word, as written in the original autographs was inerrant. And we usually agree that our translations from the original languages copies, are made by people, and thus could include human...

The local church assembly should decide how they worship God, effectively minister to the members, and reach others for Christ. All this cancel culture stuff seems biblically unsound. See Romans 14:4

As I said, it is pointless. The issue is you claimed elect does not simply refer to being chosen by God. That is what the word means. You offered no citation when your "definition" is found. Citing the bogus views of others, rather than specific scripture such as 2 Thessalonians 2:13, does...

Pointless to continue. 1) You say Jesus is the only elect, then say we become elect when in Him. 2) You say we are chosen but not elect until put in Him. 3) You cited Galatians 3:8, presenting a mistranslation. The viewpoint that does not mesh with scripture is yours, that is why you...