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    The Soul Of God Part 2

    Greetings to you Anthony (If I may address you as Anthony). Peace and hope to you and your family on this glorious day. Despite the lack of precision I'm about to have, I think "God is soul" (representing the Father anyway) would be more accurate. Your question seems to me to imply parts...
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    The Hebrew Intent Of An In-Concert Fall

    Greetings to all my brothers in Christ. Peace and Hope to you all. I wanted to say thank you to the active members of this web site and their contribution to the sharpening of each other toward God's truth. Thank you for your pursuit to bring God's truth to all the corners of the earth...
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    The Genesis 3 "serpent" Not An Actual Snake

    Greetings to you searchingtruths. I could speak at length to this topic, but it's not part of my OP so I'll refrain. I'll just refer to my essay, Evil Spirits And Demons: An In Depth Look At Why The Book Of Enoch Should Be Questioned or for a condensed essay review by another author Can We...
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    The Hebrew Intent Of An In-Concert Fall

    Greetings @Ascetic X Tell you what...I'll provide the steps that it looks like the Bible lays out. Attack it all you want. :) Step #1 Exalted Domain (Eze 28:12-15): Satan is created a guardian cherub (Eze 28:14) that has domain on the mountain of God (Eze 28:14), which is the cosmic...
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    The Hebrew Intent Of An In-Concert Fall

    Greetings Please demonstrate your logic and biblical evidence for this. It sounds like the irrelevant distinction of Satan's inward corruption. See also this post in another thread #55. Are you claiming this by your authority or God's. If God's then please demonstrate your logic and...
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    The Hebrew Intent Of An In-Concert Fall

    Greetings percho. Grace and hope to you in our Lord Jesus Christ. Technically speaking, the moment Revelation 12:9 and 20:2 were written. From that period looking backward toward previous scripture. The serpent story was "of old". This was the moment that the author, with God inspiring...
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    The Genesis 3 "serpent" Not An Actual Snake

    Greetings to you A. The original Hebrew words are Helel ben Shahar, it is not a personal proper name but literally translates "shining one" "son [of]" "daybreak". B. Then the Hebrew text was translated into Greek and Heōsphoros was used (literally "dawn-bringer"). It is not a personal...
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    The Genesis 3 "serpent" Not An Actual Snake

    God tells the serpent “On your belly you shall go and ‘āpār (dust) you shall eat all the days of your life” (Gen 3:14). This is an ancient Hebrew poetic idiom that expresses total defeat, absolute subjugation, and deep disgrace. This can be affirmed through other scripture as well, such as (1)...
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    The Genesis 3 "serpent" Not An Actual Snake

    Greetings I'm assuming you are suggesting that they were taught it was a word or roles, and it might have been, but it was also the actual name of that one fallen angel. In other words you are trying to build an argument for "progressive revelation". Let me give an example for my clarity...
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    The Genesis 3 "serpent" Not An Actual Snake

    Greetings @searchingtruths. Peace to you in our Lord Jesus Christ. Thank you for your wisdom. For the most part I agree with what you have said. Thank you for your contribution. I wanted to nitpick on the quote above a little bit though, since it has to do with the topic of the OP. I want...
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    The Hebrew Intent Of An In-Concert Fall

    Greetings percho. Grace and hope in our Lord Jesus Christ. The "serpent" of Genesis 3 is not a literal serpent, was never a literal serpent and therefore never became a literal serpent. See this most recent thread... The Genesis 3 "serpent" Not An Actual Snake Peace to you brother
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    The Hebrew Intent Of An In-Concert Fall

    Greetings to all my brothers and sisters in Christ. I'm still on the "Satan's fall" kick and trying to seek truth and clarity. The story in Genesis 3 is in fact a depiction of three characters falling in-concert with one another. It reads like a single, interconnected three character communal...
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    When Was Satan's Fall (continued)

    yea, don't know how it got here. Sorry about that.
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    The Genesis 3 "serpent" Not An Actual Snake

    Grettings You are correct on your point about the NT, but it doesn't counter my OP point. To make sure you don't have my point wrong and the development of name backwards. The Hebrew word śā-ṭān didn't start as a personal proper name with a root that means "adversary"... it started as a word...
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    The Genesis 3 "serpent" Not An Actual Snake

    Peace to you Van. Grace and hope in our Lord Jesus Christ. I agree. The NT started using these titles, roles, and imagery as names...as we do today. Yes. Thank you for your wisdom. Peace to you brother
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    The Genesis 3 "serpent" Not An Actual Snake

    Peace and Love to all my brothers and sisters in our Lord Jesus Christ. After learning that the biblical text never reveals the names of any fallen angel, ever. One quickly realizes that figurative language will be the rule when referring to the fallen angels within the Bible’s historical...
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    When Was Satan's Fall (continued)

    Greetings to all my brothers and sisters in Christ. Below is a point-by-point progression of why the Holy Scriptures tell us that Satan's first sin was in the garden of Eden. The initial intent of the Hebrew author and the understanding of the ancient Hebrew audience was that God creates...
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    When Was Satan's Fall (continued)

    Greetings @Ascetic X. Peace and hope to you on this glorious Wednesday God has made. May His name and truth reign throughout all the earth. It might be time to start thinking, or researching, before making claims. A. For an early example, Irenaeus of Lyons asserted that Satan fell in the...
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    When Was Satan's Fall (continued)

    Greetings @Ascetic X. Thank you for your dedication to God's word and the pursuit of His truth. This appears to be an attempt at philosophical logic, possibly because your attempt at using Isaiah 45:18 as support text failed. I have no objections, but it is not an attempt for clarity of...
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    When Was Satan's Fall (continued)

    Greetings to you @Ascetic X. Peace and hope to you, brother, in our Lord Jesus Christ. Well, your loaded question aside (the "huge mess" comment), yes, the ancient Hebrew understanding, and lesson, of Genesis 1 was that Genesis 1:2 described an initial state of creation as being disorganized...
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