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Reformed1689

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You are looking for a loophole to justify rebellion. Such is the idol of individualism.
That's not a loophole. We do not have a king in this country. The government, the actual government, the legal government, the constitutional government, has not mandated vaccines. Period. End of discussion. That is not a loophole, that is REALITY. The actual authority in this country that we submit to has not, in fact, issued a vaccine mandate for anyone.
 

Reformed1689

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Yes apparently AustinC does his own picking/choosing of scripture.

vv3-4 of Romans 13 explicitly places the qualification of God's appointed to ... DO GOOD in order to receive the praise/submission.

rulers are a terror to EVIL ... not Good. But when good is 'terrorized,' clearly they are no longer rulers in the Romans 13 frame but despots.

This is the same idea as holding one of the 3 church offices and then failing to promote Christ as The Head of the Church. Greater woe for that officer's actions due to the result of leading people away from Christ. Higher standard/expectation for those in authority.
Not to mention the authority he is submitting to in this case isn't even an actual authority.
 

Reynolds

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I disagree with the industry standard part. If it is the standard then the scientists need to do much better.

I'm not talking about the covid vaccine but in general.

If there is a public danger due to a virus and our medical experts require 10 years (plus or minus) to get us a vaccine then they should start developing new methods to get vaccines out quicker. In every other science the present builds on the past - even with new problems.

10 years is simply an unacceptable standard when addressing a crisis (again, speaking in general).
I believe you are thinking about this all wrong. We live in a fallen world. Due to the curse, our DNA is devolving and becoming more corrupted. Medicine has become a stop gap. In being a stop gap, it is allowing the non-fit to remain in the gene pool. Technology is interfering with survival of the fittest and causing us all to become less healthy. The world is extremely over populated. There needs to be a time for natural selection to run unchecked and begin to make corrections.
 

Two Wings

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our DNA is devolving and becoming more corrupted.

this is true. genetic entropy from the every 7 year copy our DNA does to replace itself. But this is species-wide and is irreversible. It's part of the Fall. I believe the rate of error in the copy increased after The Flood given the increased exposure to solar radiation we suddenly received.

What's interesting is we all receive from our mothers the mitochondria DNA of which there are only 3 different sets .... e.g. the wife of Shem, the wife of Ham, or the wife of Japeth and ... assuming the rate of error has remained constant over the millennia ... the degradation is actually a time stamp from The Flood!

I'll try to find those studies which reveal this ...but this was my take away a few years ago.

We ARE devolving every generation.
 

Two Wings

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The jabbed are going to hit the AED wall. The crash won't be soft. That is why they trying to drag us down with them.

in The End, Revelation says we lose 1/3 of the world's population in an hour.

I had understood that would probably mean nuclear war ... and perhaps that remains true, but this thing has proffered the potential to be VERY close to the 1/3 number. Perhaps it's a combination of the two; the DNA degradation spawns the fight about who's at fault ... which eventually kills many and then provokes a nuclear power to launch. In an hour.
 

Two Wings

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It is overpopulated. The world population should remain below the threshold that small farming, organic farming, can support.

It's overpopulated in this fallen world, creation which was broken. Before the oceans supplanted all the land ... which was watered by a mist.

I mean ... just look at west Texas alone. 40 acres and a mule but no lacking of moisture .... that could provide for a LOT of people.
 

Salty

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Using a population of 8 billion

USA - sq miles = 3,796,742 divided by 8 B = 2,107 per Sq mile
Texas sq miles = --268,580 divided by 8 B = 29,786 per sq mile

Density:

NY City = 28,016 /sq mile
SF-------= 17,246 / sq mile
Boston---=13,321/ sq mile
 

Salty

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Using a population of 8 billion

USA - sq miles = 3,796,742 divided by 8 B = 2,107 per Sq mile
Texas sq miles = --268,580 divided by 8 B = 29,786 per sq mile

Density:

NY City = 28,016 /sq mile
SF-------= 17,246 / sq mile
Boston---=13,321/ sq mile

Conclusion:
There is not overpopulation in the world.
 

AustinC

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That's not a loophole. We do not have a king in this country. The government, the actual government, the legal government, the constitutional government, has not mandated vaccines. Period. End of discussion. That is not a loophole, that is REALITY. The actual authority in this country that we submit to has not, in fact, issued a vaccine mandate for anyone.
No one has said that Congress has mandated a vaccine. If they did, you would be disobeying God if you refused to be vaccinated.
If your boss mandates a vaccine, you must quit if you refuse to be vaccinated. That boss has authority over you. Obey.
We must stop looking for loopholes so that we can worship the idol of individualism.
 

Salty

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No one has said that Congress has mandated a vaccine. If they did, you would be disobeying God if you refused to be vaccinated.
If your boss mandates a vaccine, you must quit if you refuse to be vaccinated. That boss has authority over you. Obey.
We must stop looking for loopholes so that we can worship the idol of individualism.


So your boss believes that there is overpopulation in the world - and wants something done..... so If you boss said you must have tubes tied or a Vasectomy- or you would loose your job..... who draws the line and where....
 

canadyjd

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It is overpopulated. The world population should remain below the threshold that small farming, organic farming, can support.
Biblical support? Scientific support?

Surely if we are going to force everyone to live small, organic farms we must have an elite class to manage all those folks. These elites cannot be forced onto farms, how will they rule the little people.

BTW, we must also limit births. Two kids, then snip, snip for mom and dad. Can have a bunch of overpopulating kids running around.

peace to you
 

Reynolds

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So your boss believes that there is overpopulation in the world - and wants something done..... so If you boss said you must have tubes tied or a Vasectomy- or you would loose your job..... who draws the line and where....
Many would because they are cowards.
 

Reformed1689

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If your boss mandates a vaccine, you must quit if you refuse to be vaccinated. That boss has authority over you. Obey.
We must stop looking for loopholes so that we can worship the idol of individualism.
Only if the law allows that boss to have that authority.
 
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