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1 Cor 10:31 Giving glory to God

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JonC

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Would you rather I call people rabbits?
If I had my preference I would have you acting as if you were an adult by addressing what people said rather than calling people names. You don't have to agree with people, but you can at least act as an adult in your disagreement.
 

Don

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Y'all are wasting your time. Any rational person reading this thread would see the continued comments from the thread starter, and see it's all about what he wants to do; and how, not once has he shown how his use of alcohol is glorifying to God. He's only justified it by saying God has given it to us for pleasure--which is a personal reason, not a God-glorifying one.

I'm not saying drinking is wrong. I'm saying the poster is intellectually dishonest with himself, and simply sought out books and writings, and started these threads, to be able to justify what HE wants to do.

Just do it already, and quit trying to get everyone else to say it's okay. The harder you argue for it, the more it indicates this is a personal preference, not a God-glorifying action.

It would be best to withhold further responses, and just let this thread die.
 
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Darrell C

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It's still a wild assumption that you made. Admit it!

As I have said many times alcohol is one of Gods gifts to his people.

The next time you go preaching, preach in front of an ABC store, and ask each person that goes in and comes out with alcohol why they are buying it, lol.

Alcohol is a distortion of what is actually a gift from God, just as hemp used to alter the mind, or, hang a person is.

As I said, self control is the fruit of the Spirit, and it makes little sense that GOd would "gift" us with something so contrary to that which is specifically stated as fruit of the Spirit.

That's it for me in this post unless you want to actually examine the Scripture, as asked of you in the previous post.


God bless.
 

evangelist6589

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The next time you go preaching, preach in front of an ABC store, and ask each person that goes in and comes out with alcohol why they are buying it, lol.

Alcohol is a distortion of what is actually a gift from God, just as hemp used to alter the mind, or, hang a person is.

As I said, self control is the fruit of the Spirit, and it makes little sense that GOd would "gift" us with something so contrary to that which is specifically stated as fruit of the Spirit.

That's it for me in this post unless you want to actually examine the Scripture, as asked of you in the previous post.


God bless.

Whats the point? You are as closed as a rock! Nothing will convince you not even scripture!

As I said before one can abstain from alcohol, but what makes it wrong is when they try and force their views on others which is what you may be doing.
 

evangelist6589

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Y'all are wasting your time. Any rational person reading this thread would see the continued comments from the thread starter, and see it's all about what he wants to do; and how, not once has he shown how his use of alcohol is glorifying to God. He's only justified it by saying God has given it to us for pleasure--which is a personal reason, not a God-glorifying one.

I'm not saying drinking is wrong. I'm saying the poster is intellectually dishonest with himself, and simply sought out books and writings, and started these threads, to be able to justify what HE wants to do.

Just do it already, and quit trying to get everyone else to say it's okay. The harder you argue for it, the more it indicates this is a personal preference, not a God-glorifying action.

It would be best to withhold further responses, and just let this thread die.


For once we agree. I am not going to continue and argue with these people. Its obvious their minds are as closed as a rock.
 

JonC

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For once we agree. I am not going to continue and argue with these people. Its obvious their minds are as closed as a rock.
The only closed mind here, brother, is yours. Many of us have no issues at all with a brother or sister having a drink. I don’t, anyway. I realize the dangers but at the same time I know the freedom we have in Christ. The issue is your justifying liberty via legalistic means.

Legalism has been a common feature in many of the threads you have started for several years as you have tried to justify your actions or desires via legalistic means (looking to the “letter of the law”). You did this when it came to your thoughts on marriage, divorce, evangelistic method, church type, preaching type, what church to attend, alcohol, ect. It’s always the same – if people don’t agree with you then they are closed minded, don’t read books, and are legalists. But the bottom line is you are the legalist scouring every possible source to justify your desires.

I don’t say this to be harsh. I still consider us on friendly terms. It is for this reason I’ve posted. Slow down and think about what you are doing…and why you are doing it.

If your conscience does not convict you of drinking, then have a drink in moderation. But please do not justify that as drinking “to God’s glory” and argue for your liberty to drink (which you do have) when all you are doing is drinking because you like it. But at the same time, realize that you have absolutely no right to criticize those guys who smoke pot while studying the Bible. At least they are studying the Bible.

Or- have we misjudged you. Are you gathering for a Mikes Lemonade Bible study…or perhaps using the beverage to reach out to Colorado biker gangs?
 
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blessedwife318

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For once we agree. I am not going to continue and argue with these people. Its obvious their minds are as closed as a rock.
Perfect example of how legalistic you are in this issue. If people don't think your drinking is to the glory of God they must be close minded.
You complain about people forcing their views on you when in reality all they are asking you to do is defend your own viewpoint.
You can't. It's clear you can't when you reject the very same argument for pot that you are making for alcohol.

Not one person in this entire thread has said that you can't drink.

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Darrell C

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Whats the point? You are as closed as a rock! Nothing will convince you not even scripture!

As I said before one can abstain from alcohol, but what makes it wrong is when they try and force their views on others which is what you may be doing.

You're missing the point: not everyone who is told "It's okay to use alcohol" will...abstain.

In other words, when you condone alcohol use you are setting people up for addiction, and the horrors associated with addiction.

So what do you say about them?

Now, where is your other "many" Scriptures that condone alcohol use? Where is a response to the address of the one you posted?

Again, I am not forcing my view on you, any more than you are forcing your view on me. I am simply supporting why I hold to my view...time for you to do the same.

;)


God bless.
 

Happy

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Let's examine this verse. What gives God glory? Obviously things that do not defame his name. Can one drink a Pepsi to Gods glory? Have a beverage? Eat a steak? If eating causes gluttony then no. If drinking leads to drunkenness then no. But what about eating and drinking with other believers? I believe that can give God glory. What about having a glass of wine while doing a bible study? Yes that can give God glory. So what say you?

God's Glory is PURE LIGHT, completely VOID of darkness.

No, drinking a Pepsi, eating a steak, does nothing to glorify God.

What Glorifies God is to EXALT Him ~ praise, worship, thankfulness, speaking His Word, teaching others of Christ Jesus, inviting others to come hear about Him, answering questions, sparking others interest in Him, showing others How they can be crucified with Christ, How their souls can be restored and saved and How their spirits can become quickened, and How the Lord will come to them.

When a man has done those things, "that" man "overcomes" darkness. That man, becomes "Gods inheritance", which Glorifies God. :)
 
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