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10 Cliches' Christian Should Never Use (Or Should STOP using)...

MB

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All of his ideas sound like atheism to me. Especially because, he doesn't know where he will spend eternity and he certainly doesn't like the idea of someone praying for him. Why contact God for anything.
Personally as a Christian I need all the prayer on my behalf, I can get. Like so many of the knowitall people today there is not any love of his fellow man in his abrasive tone. He is all "Me Generation" and desires to put an end to Christianity.
MB
 

Revmitchell

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“If you died today, do you know where you’d spend the rest of eternity?” No, I don’t, and neither do you. So stop asking such a presumptuous question as this that implies you have some insider knowledge that the rest of us don’t. And seriously, if your faith is entirely founded upon the notion of eternal fire insurance, you’re not sharing testimony; you’re peddling propaganda.

Uh..excuse me? We do not know? That is outright wrong and ungodly. But it doesn't suprise me a "progressive Christian" would say such a thing.

We in fact can know:

1Jn 5:13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God that you may know that you have eternal life.

We know because the word of God tells us. This question is not a 'cliche'.
 

Revmitchell

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“Can I share a little bit about my faith with you?” Too often, Christians presume we have something everyone else needs, without even knowing them first.


What is wrong this this guy?
 

Revmitchell

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“Do you accept Jesus as your personal lord and savior?” Again, this is not in the Bible.

It is in the Bible:

Rom 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved.
 

annsni

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Another one is, for example, when asking people to serve on the nominating committee, is "let me pray about it." What a load of crap. The Holy Spirit lets you know right away. If you do not want to do the ministry, have the fortitude to say no. That statement just drives me up the wall.

See, I disagree with you on this and I counsel EVERYONE to not answer immediately and instead go home to pray about it. No, the Spirit DOESN'T always let you know right away whether you should do something or not and there are times our pride says "Yes" but the Spirit says "NO!!!". The best thing is to never give a direct answer on the spot but instead to give the decision at least 24 hours. The only One to whom I'd say "yes" immediately is Jesus saying "Come follow me". :)
 

saturneptune

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See, I disagree with you on this and I counsel EVERYONE to not answer immediately and instead go home to pray about it. No, the Spirit DOESN'T always let you know right away whether you should do something or not and there are times our pride says "Yes" but the Spirit says "NO!!!". The best thing is to never give a direct answer on the spot but instead to give the decision at least 24 hours. The only One to whom I'd say "yes" immediately is Jesus saying "Come follow me". :)
You are one of my favorite posters, so we will just have to agree to disagree. Over the years, I have found that as a delay tactic for the lack of courage to say no. I take comfort in the fact that 99% of the time we are on the same page.
 

righteousdude2

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Which makes his entire list....

So the author doesn't know where he will spend eternity?

....another atheistic attempt to pull down Christianity by causing it to doubt itself; and its ways to communicate.

PPlease don't get me wrong. He has great points. Nevertheless, when Satan tempted Jesus in the wilderness after his 40 day fast, his points [questions and temptations] were well worded and worthy of considering! We need to recognize that this man, as Tom pointed out, does not have any certainty about where he'll spend eternity, and that more than likely means he also doesn't know Jesus as his Savior.

This man should be up for a Cabinet postion with the Obama Administration :)

Thanks for pointing this out Tom! :type:
 
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DrJamesAch

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I would list patheos.com as one of the "Ten Websites Christians Should Avoid". It's a bitter antifundamentalist website that often creates its own caricature of fundamentalism and then criticizes the caricature.
 

annsni

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You are one of my favorite posters, so we will just have to agree to disagree. Over the years, I have found that as a delay tactic for the lack of courage to say no. I take comfort in the fact that 99% of the time we are on the same page.

See, if I'm forced to give an answer immediately, my answer will always be no. Realize that I also have a husband I need to submit to and I really respect his thoughts on my time since I tend to overcommit. So I will usually pray and ask the Lord to let me know if I should do this or not and I speak to my husband. There have been times that I have said "yes" right away because I wanted to do it, hubby disagreed but I did it anyway - and let's just say that it was clear that it was NOT the Spirit leading me to say yes.
 

sag38

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I read the blog. Based on what this guy said and what he believes (what's on his fruit tree) he will bust hell wide open. He doesn't even believe that Jesus died for his sin. That is very clearly taught in the scripture.
 

righteousdude2

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Any Church Who Considers Sitting at this Table....

Wow, this guy says it all so much better than I've heard anyone say it - although I do take exception with his views on #7.

This ought to be preached from the pulpits (with some scripture added to defend it).

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/christianpiatt/2012/07/ten-cliches-christians-should-never-use/

.....and breaking bread with this guy and his thoughts will quickly see what those of us who have stepped back due to the huge red flags we saw in the first few words of his to beliefs: This is the epitome of atheism, rooted in secular lies.

The sad thing, there will be a great number of believers who will think this is wisdom at its best, and try to adapt and accommodate the ideas into how they approach the lost around them, and when they begin to take on this guy's foolish wisdom, they will become like many in the church, a toothless witness, lacking the quality needed to win souls for Jesus.

I rebuke this type of teaching and its line of thoughts as it is only being put out there to slow down any attempts by the saved to reach the lost.

By posting a photo of the TBN founders, I almost thought he was credible...THEN I read #2....any man that doesn't know where he will be spending eternity HAS not been right in telling me how to share the giver of eternal life.

Lights out....this guy is pure heretic, and a lost cause. If I ran into him, I'd most definitely go after him, using all ten cliches in an attempt to win him to Jesus. However, he would be like the man Jesus told us about, and I know I'd eventually be shaking the dust from y sandals and going on down the road!
 
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