10 Cliches' Christian Should Never Use (Or Should STOP using)...

[Scarlett O.]

Wow, this guy says it all so much better than I've heard anyone say it - although I do take exception with his views on #7.

This ought to be preached from the pulpits (with some scripture added to defend it).

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/christianpiatt/2012/07/ten-cliches-christians-should-never-use/

 

[saturneptune]

Wow, this guy says it all so much better than I've heard anyone say it - although I do take exception with his views on #7.

This ought to be preached from the pulpits (with some scripture added to defend it).

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/christianpiatt/2012/07/ten-cliches-christians-should-never-use/

That was a great article. I have posted with you for years, and you never disappoint, although no doubt I have you. I guess two phrases come to my mind that get in my craw. One is, can I say a little prayer for you? What is a little prayer? Can you imagine Jesus saying, this is how to pray a little prayer, Our Father, Who arent.........

Another one is, for example, when asking people to serve on the nominating committee, is "let me pray about it." What a load of crap. The Holy Spirit lets you know right away. If you do not want to do the ministry, have the fortitude to say no. That statement just drives me up the wall.

Thank you for posting this, and for sure, you have a gift of starting interesting threads.

While I am on my soap box, I wish I could take Mr Marty Robbins and drop him through the goal posts of life. That is the most pathetic song I have ever heard.

 

[mactx]

I can agree with his first list. I do not agree with all of them on his 2nd.

 

[Tom Bryant]

So the author doesn't know where he will spend eternity?

 

[pinoybaptist]

would be interesting to know what he actually believes and preaches in his church, not that I disagree with everything he said.

 

[Salty]

I would say just about all of those phrases are aceptable - with the right person at the right time.

 

[HungryInherit]

I'm on my phone so I might be wrong but this guy is on the level on Rob Bell. He doesn't believe hell is an eternal place and I'm pretty sure has championed for LGBT rights. He writes for huffpost which is one of the most liberal "think-tanks" going right now. If I'm wrong I apologize Scarlett, but this was my impression.

 

[Scarlett O.]

I'm on my phone so I might be wrong but this guy is on the level on Rob Bell. He doesn't believe hell is an eternal place and I'm pretty sure has championed for LGBT rights. He writes for huffpost which is one of the most liberal "think-tanks" going right now. If I'm wrong I apologize Scarlett, but this was my impression.

Oh, don't apologize to me. I could tell by the other things on that page that he was quite the liberal. I just thought these particular clichés should be done away with for the reasons he gives.

I would say just about all of those phrases are aceptable - with the right person at the right time.

I think that any phrase is acceptable with the right person at the right time including, "excuse me, but I think you have peacock feathers coming from your ears..." :flower: :laugh: This guy is talking about using the clichés as witnessing and counseling tools.

So the author doesn't know where he will spend eternity?

I noticed that, too. He still makes some good points about over-used and wrong phrases.

I can agree with his first list. I do not agree with all of them on his 2nd.

Me, too. That's why I didn't post the second list.

I guess two phrases come to my mind that get in my craw. One is, can I say a little prayer for you? What is a little prayer? Can you imagine Jesus saying, this is how to pray a little prayer, Our Father, Who arent.........

:laugh: :laugh: I always thought that putting the word, "little", in front of something was a Southern thing - an adjective meaning heartfelt. You, "bless his little heart" or "I just made little cake for ya'll".

 

[HungryInherit]

Gotcha. I agree with most on the first list too, but after poking around a little I justa knewd I smelt me a lib! :tongue3::wavey:

 

[Arbo]

:laugh: :laugh: I always thought that putting the word, "little", in front of something was a Southern thing - an adjective meaning heartfelt. You, "bless his little heart"

There are a few Yanks who are wise to the fact that "bless his little heart" is RebSpeak for "you're an idiot". :laugh:

 

[Wherever You Go]

I definitely disagree with his theology. I disagree with some of his assessments. But one at least that he is right on the money with is "ask Jesus into your heart." Nowhere in Scripture do we have this phrase, or an example of someone who did this. If you want to invite someone to be "saved" then it would be better to say something like "Would you like to trust Jesus as your Savior?" Or "Would you like to be saved?" Or "Believe on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved." These terms or descriptions at least are found in the Bible.

I do agree that unsaved people do not like to have a lot of cliches thrown at them. It also is not always wise to dig deeply into someone's spirituality the first time you meet them. That may work for some people, but for others you are better off to gain their trust and friendship first before delving the depths of their inner being. You just have to follow the leading of the Holy Spirit for that.

 

[HeirofSalvation]

There are a few Yanks who are wise to the fact that "bless his little heart" is RebSpeak for "you're an idiot". :laugh:

That and it's value extends such that you are exonerrated for hurling any insult you wish and saying anything you want about someone for example:

1 Oh what an ugly little child that is, bless his heart.
2 That girl is so fat, bless her heart.
3.) Poor ____ is such an idiot, bless his/her heart

 

[mactx]

I'm on my phone so I might be wrong but this guy is on the level on Rob Bell. He doesn't believe hell is an eternal place and I'm pretty sure has championed for LGBT rights. He writes for huffpost which is one of the most liberal "think-tanks" going right now. If I'm wrong I apologize Scarlett, but this was my impression.

Well even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

I can get not pushing folks and not assuming they are not saved at the outset.
However in today's Christian circles they seem to keep forgetting Jesus warning that the path to salvation is a narrow gate and few there be that find it.

 

[Salty]

...But one at least that he is right on the money with is "ask Jesus into your heart." Nowhere in Scripture do we have this phrase, or an example of someone who did this. .../QUOTE]

Well, in my limited thinking - heart = love - think Valentines Day. And :jesus: Loves us.

Would we ask someone to be born again - Nick did! and then Jesus explained it (John chapter 3) Asking someone to ask Jesus into their heart is an opportunity to explain the Bible to someone. Again - using the right thing with the right person - as each person is different.

Not only that, but I love to sing this song!!!
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[Aaron]

A faithless article.

 

[Bro. James]

Most of the points seem almost agnostic--cannot know for sure. Such is completely contrary to the Gospel by John, also his epistles-- "that you may know" is a plain doctrine for true believers--the ones with God-given Faith.

We are in the midst of an ecumenical, hyper-evangelist epidemic. Repeat after me--now you are saved, go find the church of your choice...

We are also reforming the reformed reformed. Jude 3 needs no reformation.

It is true that we have some introductions to Jesus which seem a bit strange. This is because we are trying to lead instead of letting the HS do the leading. He knows where the lost sheep are and how to call them. He expects us to preach The Word and let our light to shine before men... Most of our lights are under a bushel--called conformity to the world. Yep, we come off as hypocrites because of our part-time holiness.:sleep::sleep::sleep: We act like the world and become stumbling blocks for the babes in Christ as well as the lost.

Want to get serious about eterniity? Ask a stranger where they will be in 100 years? The answer can open the door to a lot of discussion. Your foot may get slammed in a door. Dust off and keep going. There are still lost sheep out there. If we do not follow, God will get some one who will.:BangHead:

Now what?

Even so, come Lord Jesus.

Bro. James

 

[Salty]

... Ask a stranger where they will be in 100 years? The answer can open the door to a lot of discussion. Now what?

I like that! :thumbs: :wavey:

 

[Alive in Christ]

“If you died today, do you know where you’d spend the rest of eternity?” No, I don’t, and neither do you. So stop asking such a presumptuous question as this that implies you have some insider knowledge that the rest of us don’t.

Anyone who has placed thier faith in Jesus Christ CAN INDEED have comlete assurance of thier savation.

It is NOT presumption!

 

[preacher4truth]

That article needs to be preached from pulpits? Seriously??

:BangHead:

Not here it won't.

His first premise is borderline heresy and destructive to the faith of believers. It sounds as if it is coming from an apostate.

 

[Scarlett O.]

Well, my intent wasn't to get everyone's underwear in a knot, so I'd delete my OP if I could for that reason.

I still like the article except for, as I said part of #7 and the idea of assurance.

I STILL think we are too trite with our evangelism sometimes and these clichés need re-thinking.