10 Ways To Determine If Your Christianity Has Been “Americanized”

[OldRegular]

Thanks for posting this Crabtownboy. It caused me serious introspection. I agree with almost all of it.

Amazing that your detractors have turned this thread into a debate on the minimum wage. I guess they couldn't handle addressing any other points in the article.

Actually several people addressed the OP in great detail. Also I believe it was Mr. Crab who introduced the minimum wage!

At a living wage? Do you support raising the minimum wage?

 

[JohnDeereFan]

Thanks for posting this Crabtownboy. It caused me serious introspection. I agree with almost all of it.

Amazing that your detractors have turned this thread into a debate on the minimum wage. I guess they couldn't handle addressing any other points in the article.

Actually, I addressed the OP in great detail. Little Crabtownboy has, so far, been too much of a coward to acknowledge that I did or to answer any of the questions I asked him.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Your reply simply shows that your theology has been Americanized. So, now I've answered. Hope you are happy.

Why would we look to you to tell us about either one? [edited--questioning salvation]


First, do you have evidence for this?

Second, so what? Is our Christianity based on the Word of God or what other men do?



Nothing in those verses says they rejected individual ownership of property.



So, if we don't stop Muslims, how are we showing love to their victims?



Loving somebody doesn't mean you don't stop them from hurting someone.



As long as they're killing people, they're a threat.



Actually, the Sermon on the Mount isn't a lecture on social values, as you so ignorantly would have us believe. It's a reiteration of the law.



Category fallacy.



I believe electing Godly men and American men is serving those around us.



Then why do you insist on outsourcing this responsibility to the government?



Then maybe you should join us. We believe in less government and less political power.



Have you ever read your posts???



First of all, why should we tithe? We're not Jews. This isn't the Nation of Israel.

Where are Christians ever told to tithe? And which tithe? Do we pay all the tithes? Who do we pay them to? And for what purpose?

Second, how does cutting government dependency programs indicate anything about us?



Verse? If this is true, then why did Jesus say the poor would always be among us? For that matter, could you please define "poverty"?

Do you mean American poor or Ethiopian poor?



Actually, it's very well known that Christians give more to charity. Even the anti-American Huffington Post admits this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/20/study-less-religious-stat_n_1810425.html



Why would any Christian tithe when the tithe was an Old Testament Jewish concept, not a Christian one?



First of all, we're not a nation of immigrants. Most of us were born here and our families have been here for many generations. In my family, the last family member to immigrate here was in the early 1800s. My wife's family, about the same.

We're not a nation of immigrants. We're a nation of laws.

Second, we're not hostile to legal immigrants at all. We merely ask that they follow the law and assimilate.

Do you know why TV stations include naturalization ceremonies on the news? Because they know we're very proud to have had a country that immigrants want to come to and wanted to be a part of.

Third, could you please cite some of these Bible verses so we can examine them in context? What Bible verses say it's OK for people to break the law because they're immigrants?



And yet, you can't even cite one verse.



I see. So then, Eve was only deceived in specific churches and in specific contexts?



Wait, where does Jesus say "do not respond to an evildoer with violence"? And why would He contradict Romans 13 in this way?



Why is it self centered to want to defend marriage?



You were never in the military.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Actually several people addressed the OP in great detail. Also I believe it was Mr. Crab who introduced the minimum wage!

And you have yet to say if you believe people should be paid a wage on which they can live without taking government program handouts? What is your answer?

 

[JohnDeereFan]

Your reply simply shows that your theology has been Americanized. So, now I've answered. Hope you are happy.

Actually, you didn't answer any of the questions at all. You just insulted me and ran off.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Actually, you didn't answer any of the questions at all. You just insulted me and ran off.

Going back to the OP your replies in this thread and in others simply show that your theology has been Americanized. There is your answer.

Tell me which of the ten points in the OP you agree with. From your replies it seems you do not agree with any of them, so it becomes obvious where the center of your personal theology resides.

 

[Revmitchell]

Your reply simply shows that your theology has been Americanized.

Maybe that is true, one thing for sure is that it is much more preferable and much closer to scripture than your socialized Christianity based on Marxism.

 

[OldRegular]

And you have yet to say if you believe people should be paid a wage on which they can live without taking government program handouts? What is your answer?

Wake up Mr. Crab. That question was not addressed to me!

Originally Posted by Crabtownboy

Originally Posted by Revmitchell
What I advocate is the poor getting jobs.

At a living wage? Do you support raising the minimum wage?

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You have not yet answered my question MR. Crab.

How do you treat the unborn child Mr. Crab?

But then you rarely answer questions!

 

[JohnDeereFan]

Going back to the OP your replies in this thread and in others simply show that your theology has been Americanized. There is your answer.

Tell me which of the ten points in the OP you agree with. From your replies it seems you do not agree with any of them, so it becomes obvious where the center of your personal theology resides.

So then, you're still not man enough to answer my questions.

 

[Crabtownboy]

So then, you're still not man enough to answer my questions.

I answered you, you just don't understand and you have not answered my questions.

Admit it, your personal theology has been Americanized.

 

[JohnDeereFan]

I answered you, you just don't understand and you have not answered my questions.

Actually, you didn't answer any of my questions. You just insulted me and ran off.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Maybe that is true, one thing for sure is that it is much more preferable and much closer to scripture than your socialized Christianity based on Marxism.

Only in your mind Ref. Christ spoke much about how we are to treat each other and it certainly does not fit your political agenda.

One of the marks of your Americanization is the mixing of the spiritual with the secular to fit your own needs at the expense of others; the continued emphasis of ignoring those in need and condemning those who want the folk in need helped. The buying into the modern belief that is a person is poor, in need, or sick it is their own fault and thus they do not deserve to be helped.

 

[OldRegular]

Only in your mind Ref. Christ spoke much about how we are to treat each other and it certainly does not fit your political agenda.

One of the marks of your Americanization is the mixing of the spiritual with the secular to fit your own needs at the expense of others; the continued emphasis of ignoring those in need and condemning those who want the folk in need helped. The buying into the modern belief that is a person is poor, in need, or sick it is their own fault and thus they do not deserve to be helped.

Is advocating or supporting the slaughter of the unborn child a spiritual issue or a secular issue for the "professing follower" of Jesus Christ?

 

[SovereignGrace]

Crabtownboy,

When does life begin? In the womb or with the first breath?

 

[Revmitchell]

Only in your mind Ref. Christ spoke much about how we are to treat each other and it certainly does not fit your political agenda.

One of the marks of your Americanization is the mixing of the spiritual with the secular to fit your own needs at the expense of others; the continued emphasis of ignoring those in need and condemning those who want the folk in need helped. The buying into the modern belief that is a person is poor, in need, or sick it is their own fault and thus they do not deserve to be helped.

Uh you do not know any of that about me. It is your assumption because of your socialized Marxist "Christianity.

 

[OldRegular]

Only in your mind Ref. Christ spoke much about how we are to treat each other and it certainly does not fit your political agenda.

One of the marks of your Americanization is the mixing of the spiritual with the secular to fit your own needs at the expense of others; the continued emphasis of ignoring those in need and condemning those who want the folk in need helped. The buying into the modern belief that is a person is poor, in need, or sick it is their own fault and thus they do not deserve to be helped.

Tell the truth Mr. Crab, confess to the LORD Jesus Christ and cleanse your soul of gross sin. Admit it before God. You care NOTHING about the life of the unborn child and the fact that 56,000,000 have been slaughtered since 1973!

 

[Revmitchell]

Only in your mind Ref. Christ spoke much about how we are to treat each other and it certainly does not fit your political agenda.

One of the marks of your Americanization is the mixing of the spiritual with the secular to fit your own needs at the expense of others; the continued emphasis of ignoring those in need and condemning those who want the folk in need helped. The buying into the modern belief that is a person is poor, in need, or sick it is their own fault and thus they do not deserve to be helped.

Uh you do not know any of that about me. It is your assumption because of your socialized Marxist "Christianity. Of course the premise of your statement is in error as it supposes that the government is the only way to address the poor and when someone opposes it that must mean they are against helping the poor. Such premises are dishonest and are only chicago style politics used to demonize people who you oppose. It certainly is not Christian behavior and should have no place in Christian discussions.

Your political rhetoric here in this thread, especially the op, is as much Americanized Christianity as anything else. This will be my past response to this thread as it has nothing to do with honest discussion nor does it intend to show charity to anyone. I will be in prayer for you.

 

[SovereignGrace]

Crabtownboy,

When does life begin? In the womb or with the first breath?

Answer, please?

 

[SovereignGrace]

Tell the truth Mr. Crab, confess to the LORD Jesus Christ and cleanse your soul of gross sin. Admit it before God. You care NOTHING about the life of the unborn child and the fact that 56,000,000 have been slaughtered since 1973!

Wait until his buddies push their leftist agenda and strip law-abiding citizens of their guns, only to fork them over to the criminals.

Wait until his socialist/marxist buddies take over what once was a democracy.

Wait until his buddies force local churches to perform same-sex marriages in their churches.

Wait until his buddies force churches to take in the LGBT peoples into their membership.

Just wait...

Tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick....BOOM!!!

 

[Crabtownboy]

Uh you do not know any of that about me. It is your assumption because of your socialized Marxist "Christianity. Of course the premise of your statement is in error as it supposes that the government is the only way to address the poor and when someone opposes it that must mean they are against helping the poor. Such premises are dishonest and are only chicago style politics used to demonize people who you oppose. It certainly is not Christian behavior and should have no place in Christian discussions.

Oh I've learned a lot about you over the years. And as before your show your ignorance of political philosophy. I know you will not believe me nor accept this, but I am a populist, not a Socialist, nor a Communist. I hope you have some clue what a populist stands for.

How much of your church budget goes to helping the poor, the ill, the elderly in your area?

If it is not over a tithe of your church budget you are simply being hypocritical and a materialistic American.

Your political rhetoric here in this thread, especially the op, is as much Americanized Christianity as anything else. This will be my past response to this thread as it has nothing to do with honest discussion nor does it intend to show charity to anyone. I will be in prayer for you.

Check back. The OP did not contain my words but the words of the author of the piece cited. He is correct, if you disagree with those points your theological has been compromised by the American secular culture. All your posts confirm this of your personal theology.

Also tell your buddies who keep asking off topic and irrational questions I will discuss with them when they stop their sophmoric responses and engage in clam, rational discussion. I would appreciate it if you would do the same.