2017 is 1984

[Rob_BW]

FTW, I wasn't disputing your post. Just saying that quoting an article with those editorial remarks all over looks a little funny. I mean, when even wikipedia editors are saying it's deficient...

And I usually don't even jump on the "wikipedia in not a scholarly source!!!!" bandwagon, as many of the articles are well written and properly sourced, though of course some aren't.

 

[InTheLight]

Bet some here would be just fine with America becoming an Islamic Nation and would be unwitting enough to defend it happening without ever standing up to maintain Christian values.

Strawman building, I see.

Sent from my Moto Droid Turbo.

 

[FollowTheWay]

Strawman building, I see.

Sent from my Moto Droid Turbo.

The question is not where America goes. That's a function of who has the power in government. That the Republicans right now. The question is what do we individually support in a Christian and moral seance. Don't care about the needy? want to preserve your personal wealth? We will all be judged one great day. Straight is the way and narrow is the path unto salvation and FEW shall find it. I feel comfortable with my faith. I hope you do too.

 

[Rob_BW]

When has any party passed laws restricting my ability to give to the needy?

 

[Alcott]

The question is what do we individually support in a Christian and moral seance.

"Seance?" and a Christian and moral one? bloop-bloop-bloop

 

[Yeshua1]

How Thomas Jefferson Created His Own Bible
Thanks to an extensive restoration process, the public can now see how Jefferson created his own version of the Scripture

Much of the material Jefferson elected to not include related miraculous events, such as the feeding of the multitudes with only two fish and five loaves of barley bread; he eschewed anything that he perceived as “contrary to reason.” His idiosyncratic gospel concludes with Christ’s entombment but omits his resurrection. He kept Jesus’ own teachings, such as the Beatitude, “Blessed are the peace-makers: for they shall be called the children of God.” The Jefferson Bible, as it’s known, is “scripture by subtraction,” writes Stephen Prothero, a professor of religion at Boston University.

How Thomas Jefferson Created His Own Bible | Arts & Culture | Smithsonian

As you can see, this article is from the Smithsonian Institution which has Jefferson's bible on display (National Museum of American History). You can see a copy of it here: http://tinyurl.com/lk2xee8

Same dude who used federal money to promote the Gospel among american indians, so much for seperattion church and state! He also was one that made sure that the Govy would not interfere in the church affairs....

 

[FollowTheWay]

Same dude who used federal money to promote the Gospel among american indians, so much for seperattion church and state! He also was one that made sure that the Govy would not interfere in the church affairs....

Proof? Are you saying that it's OK to create your own Bible by cutting out the parts you don't like? Is that your view as a Christian?

 

[InTheLight]

The question is not where America goes. That's a function of who has the power in government. That the Republicans right now. The question is what do we individually support in a Christian and moral seance. Don't care about the needy? want to preserve your personal wealth? We will all be judged one great day. Straight is the way and narrow is the path unto salvation and FEW shall find it. I feel comfortable with my faith. I hope you do too.

Hello? What are you banging on about now?

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[FollowTheWay]

Hello? What are you banging on about now?

Sent from my Moto Droid Turbo.

Any content here? No.

 

[Yeshua1]

Proof? Are you saying that it's OK to create your own Bible by cutting out the parts you don't like? Is that your view as a Christian?

No, just that same guy also used federal govt to promote Jesus!

 

[FollowTheWay]

No, just that same guy also used federal govt to promote Jesus!

In what way? First of all, as exemplified by his "Bible" Jefferson didn't believe that Jesus was divine. He looked at Jesus in much the same way as Gandhi did. He said:
Mahatma Gandhi > Quotes > Quotable Quote

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

― Mahatma Gandhi

Many times I tend to agree with Ghandhi.

 

[Happy]

I think the Republicans have done a great deal to harm Christianity through their hypocrisy. A Republican court passed Roe vs. Wade. That was in 1973 almost 45 years ago. If the GOP were serious about outlawing abortion don't yopu think they could have done that in 45 years? The answer is they (GOP reps in government) don't want to change their abortion law. It has given them the unthinking support of the Christian Right (which is neither) for a long time.

A Republican court? What's that?

 

[Happy]

In what way? First of all, as exemplified by his "Bible" Jefferson didn't believe that Jesus was divine. He looked at Jesus in much the same way as Gandhi did. He said:
Mahatma Gandhi > Quotes > Quotable Quote

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

― Mahatma Gandhi

Many times I tend to agree with Ghandhi.

Oh Susannah!

 

[FollowTheWay]

Oh Susannah!

 

[FollowTheWay]

A Republican court? What's that?

It's a Supreme Court dominated by justices appointed by Republicans.


1. Marshall, White and Douglas were Democrats appoints by Democratic presidents.

2. Chief Justice Burger, Powell, Rehnquist, Stewart, and Blackman were Republicans appointed by Republican presidents.

3. Brennan was a Democrat appointed by a Republican president for political reasons.

4. The vote was 7 in favor and 2 against (White-R and Rehnquist-D).

5. Even though Brennen was a Democrat it was Eisenhower’s decision that put him on the court because Presidential advisers thought the appointment of a Roman Catholic Democrat from the Northeast would woo critical voters in the upcoming re-election campaign for Eisenhower, a Republican.[10] Therefore, I would conclude that his vote was due to a decision by a Republican and therefore his vote should be counted as a Republican vote. Besides that, only one Republican voted against Roe vs. Wade. Therefore it was clearly a Republican decision to bring about legal abortion in the U.S.

If you don't regard this as important why have you been supporting a clearly unqualified and dangerous man like Trump just because of the Supreme Court nomination that's coming up?

 

[Happy]

It's a Supreme Court dominated by justices appointed by Republicans.


1. Marshall, White and Douglas were Democrats appoints by Democratic presidents.

2. Chief Justice Burger, Powell, Rehnquist, Stewart, and Blackman were Republicans appointed by Republican presidents.

3. Brennan was a Democrat appointed by a Republican president for political reasons.

4. The vote was 7 in favor and 2 against (White-R and Rehnquist-D).

5. Even though Brennen was a Democrat it was Eisenhower’s decision that put him on the court because Presidential advisers thought the appointment of a Roman Catholic Democrat from the Northeast would woo critical voters in the upcoming re-election campaign for Eisenhower, a Republican.[10] Therefore, I would conclude that his vote was due to a decision by a Republican and therefore his vote should be counted as a Republican vote. Besides that, only one Republican voted against Roe vs. Wade. Therefore it was clearly a Republican decision to bring about legal abortion in the U.S.

If you don't regard this as important why have you been supporting a clearly unqualified and dangerous man like Trump just because of the Supreme Court nomination that's coming up?

The Supreme Court ~ Designed to be the Supreme, Ultimate decider of a case BASED ON LAW.

Funny how it has become the Supreme Court, based on personal INTERESTS of those seated, don't you think?

Seems if "that" Court has whites, blacks, men, women, homosexuals, Liberals, Democrat, Republican, Communist, or whatever "tag", WE the People can be SURE, the LAW is secondary to PERSONAL opinions of "that" Court. "IF" is wasn't, "THEN" based solely on the "LAW", all "regardless" of their "personal" opinions, they "ALL" would have a "unanimous" conclusion, which statistically is "less" than 50% of the time. So, what does such a "low" unanimous decision tell you?

That the LAW itself is obscure and should be repealed?
or
That decisions are "based" on personal opinions and not based on the LAW?

Either way, How is a COURT, designed to be Supreme, actually Supreme when it stands against itself?

According to Scripture ~

Mark 3
[25] And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.

You rally against a man who says America's goal should be to make America Great Again.

Since that does not seem to be "your" favor, What do you think? Do you like American division and do not want unity?

 

[Yeshua1]

In what way? First of all, as exemplified by his "Bible" Jefferson didn't believe that Jesus was divine. He looked at Jesus in much the same way as Gandhi did. He said:
Mahatma Gandhi > Quotes > Quotable Quote

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

― Mahatma Gandhi

Many times I tend to agree with Ghandhi.

Over Jesus?

 

[Happy]

In what way? First of all, as exemplified by his "Bible" Jefferson didn't believe that Jesus was divine. He looked at Jesus in much the same way as Gandhi did. He said:
Mahatma Gandhi > Quotes > Quotable Quote

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

― Mahatma Gandhi

Many times I tend to agree with Ghandhi.

I like Christians. And I like Jefferson.

1816 January 9. (Jefferson to Charles Thomson). "I too have made a wee little book, from the same materials, which I call the Philosophy of Jesus. it is a paradigma of his doctrines, made by cutting the texts out of the book, and arranging them on the pages of a blank book, in a certain order of time or subject. a more beautiful or precious morsel of ethics I have never seen. it is a document in proof that I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus, very different from the Platonists, who call me infidel, and themselves Christians and preachers of the gospel, while they draw all their characteristic dogmas from what it’s Author never said nor saw. they have compounded from the heathen mysteries a system beyond the comprehension of man, of which the great reformer of the vicious ethics and deism of the Jews, were he to return on earth, would not recognise one feature.

 

[FollowTheWay]

I like Christians. And I like Jefferson.

1816 January 9. (Jefferson to Charles Thomson). "I too have made a wee little book, from the same materials, which I call the Philosophy of Jesus. it is a paradigma of his doctrines, made by cutting the texts out of the book, and arranging them on the pages of a blank book, in a certain order of time or subject. a more beautiful or precious morsel of ethics I have never seen. it is a document in proof that I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus, very different from the Platonists, who call me infidel, and themselves Christians and preachers of the gospel, while they draw all their characteristic dogmas from what it’s Author never said nor saw. they have compounded from the heathen mysteries a system beyond the comprehension of man, of which the great reformer of the vicious ethics and deism of the Jews, were he to return on earth, would not recognise one feature.

Rev 22:19
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

 

[FollowTheWay]

Over Jesus?

No, Jesus over the hypocrites who were described by Him as:
Mat 23:27 ¶
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.