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24 hour sinless day

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by saturneptune, May 28, 2007.

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  1. Yes, I believe I can be sinless for 24 or so hours.

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  2. No, it is impossible not to sin for that period of time.

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  1. His Blood Spoke My Name

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    If you are trying to bring allegations against me because of the quote from shakespheare in my signature, that boat won't float. I did not read one of his books to get the quote, I found it in another book and confirmed it was a shakesphearean quote over the internet.

    The quote says nothing of sexual misconduct or perversion, so don't even go there.
     
  2. EdSutton

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    Good enough. Now you asked for someone to give Scripture that one in the NT sins each and every day, I believe-
    I will attempt to answer this on two fronts, first by quoting a short seven point summary I tend to agree with completely, although I would say it is, in itself, incomplete, as to what is sin.
    I call attention to #4, missing the mark, the Greek word hamartanO (`αμαρτανω) and given its meaning of missing the divine standard, suggest that, IMO, I seriously doubt one can honestly say that one can meet this standard of God's perfection over a twenty-four hour period. And I think point two will support point one.

    I agree that "walking in the Spirit" and "walking in the light" are the same. John (I assume John, although Scripture does not actually name an author, here) says this about "walking in the light."
    The force of the Greek in v. 7 is not entirely clear in our English language, due to the tense, for the English does not have any exact 'tense' correspondance to the Greek continuous/present, but must differentiate between the two. The force of verse seven is that of "If we (are) walk(ing) in the light (which is equal to 'walking in the spirit', as both you and I have said), ... the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us (or keeps on cleansing us) from all sin." Since both these words of "walk" and "cleanses" are the same continuous/present, both would cover the same "time frame". Why would the blood need to be continually cleansing from all sin, if one were not still 'sinning', even when walking with God. I suggest this is applicable to all of us, since the word "we" is plural. Any exegesis of this verse, that does not recognize the tenses, makes no sense at all, I would say.

    "Walking in the spirit," is not equal to "walking without sin.", and nowhere does Scripture say otherwise, IMO.

    Hope that helps in answer to your request.

    Good night, all.

    Ed
     
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  3. saturneptune

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    There is no need to call others liars. Romans 7 and to an extent Romans 8 details the daily conflict within the Christian.

    The people who need to get a check on reality are those who believe they are above sin, for whatever time span, and understand how wicked and depraved we are, and there is no time we do not need God's grace.
     
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    Hope I don't offend...

    The Bible says, "In your anger, do not sin." Thus, I think we should lay off this thread:
    • We won't change each other's minds.
    • HBSMN, a couple of my posts on this subject days ago were written in such a way that I feel I was baiting you to respond. If I'm trying to get you angry, then I'm baiting you into sinning--Those motives are not good, and I'm sorry. We don't agree on quite a few things, but I'm gonna stay away from this one. If you can go however long without sinning...you don't need me baiting you into a sinful response...kind of defeats the purpose.
    Others of you may disagree. So be it.
     
  5. saturneptune

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    I agree with Rbell. Since creating this thread, I never meant for words like liar and blasphemer to be exchanged. Moderators, this thread has gone on longer than it should. Please close it.
     
  6. EdSutton

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    :tear:

    Once again, another thread is now on 'life support' due to both postings with disregard for the BB rules, especially those of showing grace to other posters and not questioning the salvation of other posters as well [​IMG], and also in accordance with the practice of the Moderators closing them, at the request of the OP. I am saddened by this first part, and suggest that it certainly shows too much immaturity by some of us, regardless of our claimed maturity. The proof is in the pudding, I guess, as the saying goes.

    That said, I would like to add a few more things before I see the "plug pulled" and the "lock" imposed.

    Sin can be, and is, as much a matter of "omission" as one of "comission",
    which I should have added to my last post.

    Secondly, one "walking in the Spirit" or "walking in the light" is not ever said to be "sinless", but one that will surely "sin less", as I understand Scripture.

    Thirdly, the Bible says that that which is not of faith, is sin. (Rom. 14:23) It also says all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags, before God. (Isa. 64:6) Would that not mean that even 'trying to "not sin"' is sin, if it is done by our own efforts?

    I hope and pray I have not been the cause of any of the animosity I see too often on the BB threads.

    R.I.P., 24 hour sinless day thread. Maybe we can borrow a quote or two from you sometime, in memory. [​IMG]

    Ed
     
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