400,000

[Gold Dragon]

DOCTOR DEMANDS AUDIT OF COVID DEATHS (bitchute.com)

And for all of Scott Jensen’s bluster, there were a total of _____ covid cases found to be falsely attributed in minnesota. What is the answer in the blank?

 

[Reformed1689]

614,820 deaths is a much bigger number.

 

[Van]

Maybe you are correct. Let’s weigh the evidence available to us.

On the one hand you have CDC data, state data, hospital data, laboratory data, personal accounts, independent organizational data.

On your side we have your suppositions, claims you found on the internet from Twitter or right wing conspiracy “news” sites describing one or two cases with no evidence. Am I missing any pieces of evidence?

The number of deaths per 100,000 in the USA from all causes varies, and 2020 may indeed be higher than 2019. But how much of the increase can be attributed to normal variation, rather than Covid? So yes, maybe I am correct and the number was exaggerated to make Mr. Trump look bad. This is not stated as a fact, but as a possibility. And none of your data demonstrates otherwise.

 

[percho]

And for all of Scott Jensen’s bluster, there were a total of _____ covid cases found to be falsely attributed in minnesota. What is the answer in the blank?

I do not deny there has been a pandemic nor a lot of deaths from the pandemic. I also do not deny that, intentional fear, to benefit from a pandemic took place and still is going on.

 

[Gold Dragon]

The number of deaths per 100,000 in the USA from all causes varies, and 2020 may indeed be higher than 2019. But how much of the increase can be attributed to normal variation, rather than Covid? So yes, maybe I am correct and the number was exaggerated to make Mr. Trump look bad. This is not stated as a fact, but as a possibility. And none of your data demonstrates otherwise.

300,000 in 9 months due to normal variation! Think about that.

I’ve told you how many US soldiers died in 4 years in wwii and how many people are estimated to have died of influenza in the US in a decade.

 

[Gold Dragon]

I do not deny there has been a pandemic nor a lot of deaths from the pandemic. I also do not deny that, intentional fear, to benefit from a pandemic took place and still is going on.

Maybe fear is something that should be present when there are hundreds of thousands of lives at stake.

 

[Van]

300,000 in 9 months due to normal variation! Think about that.

I’ve told you how many people US soldiers died in 4 years in wwii and how many people died of influenza in the US in a decade.

I think you have slipped your mooring! Did I say the whole increase was due to exaggeration or normal variation? Nope. BTW what was the per 100,000 death rate in the USA in 1949? Was that high number caused by a single contagion?

 

[percho]

and of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou dost not eat of it, for in the day of thine eating of it -- dying thou dost die.'

because of this, even as through one man the sin did enter into the world, and through the sin the death; and thus to all men the death did pass through, for that all did sin;

And it cometh to pass, in that night, that a messenger of Jehovah goeth out, and smiteth in the camp of Asshur a hundred eighty and five thousand, and they rise early in the morning, and lo, all of them are dead corpses.

Here is a Theological thought, Have any more or any less, world wide, died than were suppose to?

 

[Gold Dragon]

Here is a Theological thought, Have any more or any less, world wide, died than were suppose to?

Our thoughts and actions will be judged by the Creator who is in authority.

I do not want to be judged for having a callous view of life (on earth and in eternity, born or unborn) that can be saved by my action or inaction.

The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.

 

[percho]

Our thoughts and actions will be judged by the Creator who is in authority.

I do not want to be judged for having a callous view of life (on earth and in eternity, born or unborn) that can be saved by my action or inaction.

I agree. How many conceived, have not been brought forth?

Isa 66:9 'Do I bring to the birth, And not cause to bring forth?' saith Jehovah, 'Am not I He who is causing to beget? I have also restrained,' said thy God.

 

[percho]

BTW I also agree so far the ones we have elected have not done much to overcome that.

 

[Gold Dragon]

And so should our attitude be to those who have been born when our direct actions can impact their lives both earthly and eternal. Even small actions that do not burden us such as standing slightly further away, getting tested and isolating when we are sick and placing barriers in front of our breath that can spread a virus that can harm them without us knowing

And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'

 

[percho]

And Jehovah God formeth the man -- dust from the ground, and breatheth into his nostrils breath of life, and the man becometh a living creature.
and this having said, he breathed on them, and saith to them, 'Receive the Holy Spirit;

Thank God He was God.

And the leper in whom the plague is, his clothes shall be rent, and his head bare, and he shall put a covering upon his upper lip, and shall cry, Unclean, unclean. All the days wherein the plague shall be in him he shall be defiled; he is unclean: he shall dwell alone; without the camp shall his habitation be.

The Gov of NY quarantined them, wait, he put them in with the week.

 

[Baptist Believer]

How about the folks with Covid that died of the underlying condition. Why was their death not said to be caused by the actual root cause?

I know three people who have died of COVID-19 in the last 10 days. I was talking to a coworker today because we have to rush a project that is due on Tuesday because he has to go to his mother-in-law’s funeral who also just died of COVID-19. I didn’t know her, but there’s another death that has affected my life.

In the last year, I have known more than a dozen people who have died and several friends who recovered, but have serious lung damage that is likely permanent.

400,000 people seems to be a little low based on the number of people in my relatively small circle of friends and acquaintances.

No one who has died recently has had a major uncontrolled health issue, nor was in poor health before all of this began.

I know people would prefer to assume this pandemic is politically-motivated or being over-hyped to spread fear. However, it is just the opposite. There has been a lot of political spin to make it seem insignificant (“It’s the sniffles” or “No worse than the flu”). That propaganda is deadly. Several friends of mine did not wear masks or take precautions and have paid with their lives or their long-term health.

And just now, my mother (85-years-old) texted that she and my step-father (93-years-old) have become ill with flu-like symptoms. If it is COVID, they likely won’t survive it.

Don’t be a fool.

 

[Van]

I know three people who have died of COVID-19 in the last 10 days. I was talking to a coworker today because we have to rush a project that is due on Tuesday because he has to go to his mother-in-law’s funeral who also just died of COVID-19. I didn’t know her, but there’s another death that has affected my life.

In the last year, I have known more than a dozen people who have died and several friends who recovered, but have serious lung damage that is likely permanent.

400,000 people seems to be a little low based on the number of people in my relatively small circle of friends and acquaintances.

No one who has died recently has had a major uncontrolled health issue, nor was in poor health before all of this began.

I know people would prefer to assume this pandemic is politically-motivated or being over-hyped to spread fear. However, it is just the opposite. There has been a lot of political spin to make it seem insignificant (“It’s the sniffles” or “No worse than the flu”). That propaganda is deadly. Several friends of mine did not wear masks or take precautions and have paid with their lives or their long-term health.

And just now, my mother (85-years-old) texted that she and my step-father (93-years-old) have become ill with flu-like symptoms. If it is COVID, they likely won’t survive it.

Don’t be a fool.

The number of deaths per 100,000 in the USA from all causes varies, and 2020 may indeed be higher than 2019. But how much of the increase can be attributed to normal variation, rather than Covid? So yes, maybe I am correct and the number was exaggerated to make Mr. Trump look bad. This is not stated as a fact, but as a possibility. And none of your data demonstrates otherwise.

Intimidation will not change the facts. Three of my grandchildren have tested positive for Covid, two have recovered and one is feeling better today, but relapse is still a threat.

Only a partisan would claim numbers could not be manipulated to push an agenda. Recall the claims of Mr. Gore in his film "Inconvenient Truth? If Jesus was walking the earth today, He might say we will always have prophets of doom with us.

 

[timtofly]

In the post Christian era, how can any person rely upon the claims of people. Those committed to Christ strive to tell the truth, considering others as more important than themselves, but our post Christian culture features "professing Christians" posting obvious fallacies right and left. From my side of the street, I do not claim to know whether 400,000 Americans have died because of Covid and not because of a pre-existing condition making them vulnerable to Covid. And I do not know why after more than a month, my Doctor cannot yet make an appointment for me to get vaccinated in California when my younger brother in law in Tennessee has his appointment!

If you cannot trust the science for the numbers, how can you trust a vaccine?

 

[Van]

If you cannot trust the science for the numbers, how can you trust a vaccine?

Do you know the story of the boy who cried wolf? The prophets of doom are groomed by the godless left. Recall "Never waste a crisis." I am certainly no scientist, but for many years worked with some. One of them said, and he was of German extraction, "If you torture the data long enough, it will confess to anything."

And to repeat, we are to test the spirits, and when time betrays their falsehood prophecies, we are not to trust them. Recall the myth that global warming was killing off the polar bear population? The issue is the left leaning media does not hold the left accountable for their non-stop falsehoods.

 

[just-want-peace]

Do you know the story of the boy who cried wolf? The prophets of doom are groomed by the godless left. Recall "Never waste a crisis." I am certainly no scientist, but for many years worked with some. One of them said, and he was of German extraction, "If you torture the data long enough, it will confess to anything."

And to repeat, we are to test the spirits, and when time betrays their falsehood prophecies, we are not to trust them. Recall the myth that global warming was killing off the polar bear population? The issue is the left leaning media does not hold the left accountable for their non-stop falsehoods.

My feelings in a nutshell!!!!! The highlighted above exemplifies the current “pandemic” conditions to a “T” IMHO!!

 

[Baptist Believer]

My feelings in a nutshell!!!!! The highlighted above exemplifies the current “pandemic” conditions to a “T” IMHO!!

Those of us who are living in reality know that many people around us are getting it and a significant number of people I know are dying -way beyond the usual number.

My mother and stepfather just tested positive for COVID and are checking in at an ER at this very moment.

Even Trump zealots I know are confronting this reality since the pandemic did not “end the day after the election” and they see the deaths continue.

Wake up.

 

[Revmitchell]

The recovery rate for those under 65 is 99%.

The recovery rate for those over 65 is 97%.

40% of those who have died have been in nursing homes. NY was forcing covid patients into nursing homed instead of hospitals. It wasnt even necessary.

People can talk about their individual experienced all they want but it doesnt do anything to place it all in context.

People tout the overall numbers but intentionally refuse to look at or even talk about the recovery rate. Looks pretty slimey.