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4th jab now recommended

Wingman68

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It's in their genes! Man has done a few wondrous achievements with the creation gave him to rule over:

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Gen 1

The Anatolians are a livestock guardian dog bred over a 6,000 year period. They require little or no 'training' to do naturally what they were bred to do.
Man can never let well enough alone when they do get something right, look at the craze in designer dogs, where mixing breeds somehow makes those offspring worth more than the original…….& morons pay it! Some Anatolians around here too, they’re so cool, the owners say those dogs never spend one night in the house because they want to be out around the barn to guard their charges 24/7.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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It's in their genes! Man has done a few wondrous achievements with the creation gave him to rule over:

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Gen 1

The Anatolians are a livestock guardian dog bred over a 6,000 year period. They require little or no 'training' to do naturally what they were bred to do.

we use that breed to both protect and heard our sheep. The two dogs do a wonderful job and the chickens are less fearful of predators when they are around.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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You have made an error in judgement. While I'm sure some do, I think most do not get vaccinated out of fear.

I am not afraid of getting the flu, much less dying of the flu. But I got the flu shot anyway. Same with the covid vaccine. Neither shot guarantees I will not be infected or get sick. Nether guarantees effectiveness. But both provide some protection against serious illness.

You are mistaking about the vaccinated and unvaccinated being equal in spreading covid. Both can, but the unvaccinated (especially the unvacvinated who have not recovered from a severe covid case) are more likely to spread infection and for a longer period of time.
And are noticeably ill and generally incapable of going out into the public to socialize. Not true for those who are vaccinated and are asymptomatic… you can’t see them coming is my point.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Interesting, I spoke with someone yesterday who had Covid last July (2020). She gets tested monthly for anti-bodies and guess what, she still has them. Score one for Natural immunity
That is interesting to note. Do you know if antibody testing is a routine test or is it complicated?
 

JonC

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And are noticeably ill and generally incapable of going out into the public to socialize. Not true for those who are vaccinated and are asymptomatic… you can’t see them coming is my point.
True. But they are also (for the most part) not the ones on ventilators. I don't care if I'm asymptomaticly covid positive. :Wink

Edit: also, the vaccinated who are infected are less likely to spread covid, have a shorter infection period, and the vaccinated are less likely to get covid.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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True. But they are also (for the most part) not the ones on ventilators. I don't care if I'm asymptomaticly covid positive. :Wink
But the guy you give that virus to surely will care. After all, you can still get it and spread it to others, consciously or unconsciously … ipso facto, even with those shots, you can still spread covid. Natural immunity is far better.
 

JonC

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But the guy you give that virus to surely will care. After all, you can still get it and spread it to others, consciously or unconsciously … ipso facto, even with those shots, you can still spread covid. Natural immunity is far better.
But the guy is less likely to get it from me. And if he is vaccinated he may never even know.

You can question the effectiveness of the vaccine, but at least many are asymptomatic. Natural immunity significantly decreases after 6 months as well.....so it really is at least no better. Look at all the reports of people who have had covid two and three times. It's just no good.
 

Reformed1689

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But the guy is less likely to get it from me. And if he is vaccinated he may never even know.

You can question the effectiveness of the vaccine, but at least many are asymptomatic. Natural immunity significantly decreases after 6 months as well.....so it really is at least no better. Look at all the reports of people who have had covid two and three times. It's just no good.
different variants.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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yeah, but then you could spread it to others, could you not? How's that vaccine working for you? How is that protecting anyone?
However providing you can prove natural immunity ( via those recent blood tests you mentioned) you and those in close proximity to you are at much less of a risk!

The shame of this whole bloody vaccine mania is there are places of employment that won’t care if you have natural immunity or not… you MUST get that inadequate experimental ( and some would argue) potentially dangerous vaccine. This mania is completely FUBAR. If I were a lawyer … well you know, don’t let an opportunity go to waste. :Biggrin
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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different variants.
Ahh… now the variant enigma raises its head. I would liken it to the flu shot debacle… I receive a flu shot from my local pharmacist and a week later get the flu… so WTF?!? Flat on my back in my bed & literally on the floor crawling to the bathroom. So much for that ever present question, “ have you gotten your flu shot yet?” :mad::mad::Cautious
 

Reformed1689

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Ahh… now the variant enigma raises its head. I would liken it to the flu shot debacle… I receive a flu shot from my local pharmacist and a week later get the flu… so WTF?!? Flat on my back in my bed & literally on the floor crawling to the bathroom. So much for that ever present question, “ have you gotten your flu shot yet?” :mad::mad::Cautious
careful, you're using logic.
 

Wingman68

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It was a particular large coyote I was targeting. Seen it once out back where the little house dogs 'do their business' and immediately sought to save them from becoming 'coyote dung' by eliminating the threat. We're isolated out in the country, these aren't 'house cats', they're wild and furious when caught in a trap. I just had no idea they were so common way out here, I suppose because they're nocturnal.

Since then we've acquired two Anatolian Shepherds that have totally eliminated the coyote threat.
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Browning lever action 556 right out my slider. Big male. Like Tom Petty say’s, don’t come around here no more……
 
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