4th jab now recommended

[KenH]

So how come the single, double and triple jabbed are coming down with COVID?

No different than getting a flu shot annually. I am not really interested in any booster shot of the vaccine shorter than one year. Since I got vaccinated against COVID in mid-April and against the flu in mid-October, I am satisfied with the spacing in my case. So if I need a COVID vaccine booster in mid-April 2022, so be it.

 

[RipponRedeaux]

No different than getting a flu shot annually. I am not really interested in any booster shot of the vaccine shorter than one year. Since I got vaccinated against COVID in mid-April and against the flu in mid-October, I am satisfied with the spacing in my case. So if I need a COVID vaccine booster in mid-April 2022, so be it.

Why is it that so many get the flu each year after getting a 'flu shot' in the arm? Meanwhile, folks like me who haven't had the flu shot for years (in my case not since 2013) do not get the flu?
If you need a COVID booster, then your vaxx was not so effective, was it?
Why not depend on your body --made by God --and not Big Pharma --to weather the storm of disease supplemented with Vit C, Vit. D3, Magnesium, Zinc and Quercetin?

 

[KenH]

Why not depend on your body --made by God --and not Big Pharma

I take plenty of supplements. So you don't take antibiotics or aspirin or Tylenol or anything like that?

 

[KenH]

Why is it that so many get the flu each year after getting a 'flu shot' in the arm?

"Though the studies range by year, the risk of landing in the ICU with influenza drops anywhere from 26 to 82 percent if you’re vaccinated. A study earlier this year in Vaccine reported that there was a 31 percent reduced risk of death compared with those who were unvaccinated. And even if you are one of the unlucky few who get vaccinated and still land in the ICU, your stay will be shorter. A 2018 study found that among those admitted to the ICU with flu, vaccinated patients spend 4 fewer days there than the unvaccinated."

How Effective Is the Flu Vaccine? (prevention.com)

 

[Reynolds]

I have no problem with an annual COVID-19 shot, just like getting an annual flu shot.

I don't either, if I want to get it. I ain't taking a forced flu or Covid shot.
Line up cattle. Go through the chutes and get jabbed, wormed, and branded.

 

[Reynolds]

The unvaccinated are more a risk. It is not about completely removing risk (we can't do that), but about acting responsibly.

The vaccinated are less likely to get covid, if they do get covid they typically have a lower viral load (not as contageous) and the infection period us typically considerably shorter.

If the vax works, don't worry. Y'all are terrified that if the virus is not beat down to a tiny level that you will get the variants.

 

[JonC]

The 'virus' has not been isolated. So what is being put in those needles? A vaccination is supposed to make people immune to a particular disease. So how come the single, double and triple jabbed are coming down with COVID? The unvaxxed are doing much better off depending on natural immunity whereas the vaxxed are getting sick and dying.

The virus was isolated December 2019. It has been isolated many times since.

https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/jvi.00543-20?permanently=true

Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 isolate SARS-CoV-2/hum - Nucleotide - NCBI,

https://theconversation.com/i-study...onavirus-to-fight-the-global-pandemic-133675#


Also, they don't put the virus in needles. That is one advantage of mRNA vaccines....it is impossible to infect a person with the virus.

 

[canadyjd]

I don't know. Three studies previously linked stated that covid survivors had more antibodies (depending on the severity of the illness) but less t-cell immunity. Antibodies for vovid survivors is estimated to be effective for 6 months after recovery.

0.7% of survivors of severe covid cases contracted covid a second time.

But covid survivors who are not vaccinated are 2.34 times more likely to be reinfected with the virus..

While I agree covid survivors are at less risk than those unvaccinated who have not had covid, they still pose an unnecessary risk. They are over twice as likely to become infected than were they vaccinated. Studies have shown they have aider t-cell immunity.

So, of the .7 of 1% of covid survivors that get sick again, half have not been vaccinated?

So, covid survivors have 99..35% natural immunity to the virus. Of those reinfected, very few have serious complications if no previous serious health problems.

There is no need to mandate vaccines for these people. They do not pose a significant risk to anybody,.

peace to you

 

[just-want-peace]

Those recovered from covid have been shown to have 27 times the immunity of the vaxed. This effectiveness does not appear to decrease over time.

Those recovered from covid should always be considered when determining public policy.

peace to you

Not when the point is to get/maintain sheeple control!!!!

 

[JonC]

So, of the .7 of 1% of covid survivors that get sick again, half have not been vaccinated?

So, covid survivors have 99..35% natural immunity to the virus. Of those reinfected, very few have serious complications if no previous serious health problems.

There is no need to mandate vaccines for these people. They do not pose a significant risk to anybody,.

peace to you

No. We can't really go off statistical models when predicting actual outcomes (unfortunately). Chances vary among individuals.

The .7 were those who became seriously ill and survived.

So far there have been a little over 4,960,000 covid deaths.

This is far from rare. But odds are covid will not be the reason you die.

There has been a little over 245,000,000 covid cases. That's a 3.1% chance of getting covid. Still low.

BUT the issue is it is an unnecessary risk. You can choose your own health risks but you do not get to decide for other people.

 

[KenH]

Line up cattle. Go through the chutes and get jabbed, wormed, and branded.

That is an unfair, hyperbolic slur toward those of us who have been vaccinated, having to for employment or not.

 

[canadyjd]

No. We can't really go off statistical models when predicting actual outcomes (unfortunately). Chances vary among individuals……

Says the man quoting 10,000 statistics on this board. I guess they only count when you think they help you.

peace to you

 

[JonC]

Says the man quoting 10,000 statistics on this board. I guess they only count when you think they help you.

peace to you

I've said this several times. We can co parents statistics but they are not true on tge ground. If you have an unknown allergy to a vaccine then odds are you are not going to have a good day if vaccinated. If you are over 40 odds are you will have a roughrt time with covid than a healthy 20 year old.

My complant with statistics is how the leftists and anti-covid-vaxers use them.

They will switch between actual numbers and percentages to make their position appear better. They will ignore actual cases, real people.

But the fact remains. Vaccinated people have a protection that unvaccinated employees don't and this includes less of a chance to contract the virus.

So who cares what the anti-covid-vaxers say? Not to sound rude, but with most of Americans vaccinated does their anti-science opinions really matter?

We just need to move forward, leaving them to their conspiracies about new world orders and population control.

If you have to drag a child having a tantrum to the party the child will not only have a bad time but he will make everybody else miserable as well. Just leave the kid at home.

 

[Reynolds]

I've said this several times. We can co parents statistics but they are not true on tge ground. If you have an unknown allergy to a vaccine then odds are you are not going to have a good day if vaccinated. If you are over 40 odds are you will have a roughrt time with covid than a healthy 20 year old.

My complant with statistics is how the leftists and anti-covid-vaxers use them.

They will switch between actual numbers and percentages to make their position appear better. They will ignore actual cases, real people.

But the fact remains. Vaccinated people have a protection that unvaccinated employees don't and this includes less of a chance to contract the virus.

So who cares what the anti-covid-vaxers say? Not to sound rude, but with most of Americans vaccinated does their anti-science opinions really matter?

We just need to move forward, leaving them to their conspiracies about new world orders and population control.

If you have to drag a child having a tantrum to the party the child will not only have a bad time but he will make everybody else miserable as well. Just leave the kid at home.

Like you ignore the vaccine injured because you see them as a percentage.

 

[Reynolds]

That is an unfair, hyperbolic slur toward those of us who have been vaccinated, having to for employment or not.

Its perfectly fair comparison

 

[Revmitchell]

Like you ignore the vaccine injured because you see them as a percentage.

reminds me of the global warming hysteria . If it’s hot it’s gw if it’s cold it’s gw if it’s raining it’s gw if it’s drought it’s gw no matter what when the far left wants something to be true it’s true no matter what’s going on.

 

[37818]

The 'virus' has not been isolated.

Where are you getting that from?

 

[canadyjd]

I've said this several times. We can co parents statistics but they are not true on tge ground. If you have an unknown allergy to a vaccine then odds are you are not going to have a good day if vaccinated. If you are over 40 odds are you will have a roughrt time with covid than a healthy 20 year old.

My complant with statistics is how the leftists and anti-covid-vaxers use them.

They will switch between actual numbers and percentages to make their position appear better. They will ignore actual cases, real people.

But the fact remains. Vaccinated people have a protection that unvaccinated employees don't and this includes less of a chance to contract the virus.

So who cares what the anti-covid-vaxers say? Not to sound rude, but with most of Americans vaccinated does their anti-science opinions really matter?

We just need to move forward, leaving them to their conspiracies about new world orders and population control.

If you have to drag a child having a tantrum to the party the child will not only have a bad time but he will make everybody else miserable as well. Just leave the kid at home.

I think you use statistics exactly how you are now claiming others use statistics.

I have no problem with adults making decisions for themselves and their families based on the info they have, whether they get the vac or not.

Im not going to compare them to children or accuse them of not caring if they kill people, which you have done to your shame.

Statistics have been used from the beginning to grossly exaggerate the risk of this virus, especially to younger people.

I saw a poll that the majority of dems believe people have a 40% chance of being hospitalized if exposed to this virus. The real number, for most people is lie single digits.

That is a direct result of hyperbolic coverage in the news and misinformation being spread.

I don’t think you and I are very far apart on the effectiveness of the vaccines and their benefit, especially for the elderly and those with preexisting conditions.

I am horrified by the way those that disagree are being characterized, marginalized, and unfairly treated. It is straight out of a tyrants playbook.

peace to you

 

[KenH]

If it’s hit it’s gw if it’s cold it’s gw if it’s raining it’s gw if it’s drought it’s gw no matter what when the far left wants something to be true it’s true no matter what’s going on.

I agree with you about global warming, now called climate change as a catchall.

 

[Reynolds]

I agree with you about global warming, now called climate change as a catchall.

The same "science establishment" you believe about Covid?