5 Ways To Be Unsatisfied With Your Church

[evangelist6589]

Good question. I believe Paul answered this when giving instruction to Timothy, that is, that all Scripture is profitable in his ministry to the church, 2 Timothy 3:15ff which would include all the things evangelist6589 mentioned that are lacking in some ministries.

Its unfortunate that MOST ministries lack teaching these things.. Very sad indeed....

 

[Salty]

Honestly EV - I would have to admit that from knowing you on this board, I'd also most likely have a bit of an issue putting you in a leadership roll as well. I don't think you're quite there yet.

Thanks for the personal attack. ...

PA? I see it more as an (honest) opinion- - especially since you often attack your church of attendence

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Good question. I believe Paul answered this when giving instruction to Timothy, that is, that all Scripture is profitable in his ministry to the church, 2 Timothy 3:15ff which would include all the things evangelist6589 mentioned that are lacking in some ministries.

Good response:thumbsup:

 

[Revmitchell]

PA? I see it more as an (honest) opinion- - especially since you often attack your church of attendence

That is what cagey cals do. They justify their divisive behavior and paint any opposition of disagreement in unrealistic characterizations.

 

[annsni]

Thanks for the personal attack. I am not perfect but better me than someone whom teaches "easy-beievism" and does not teach the whole counsel of the gospel. Well pastors that do this will be judged harshly. I avoid like the plague "professional ordained evangelists" that avoid preaching on hell, sin, and judgment.

It's not a personal attack and when I wrote it, I was thinking kindly. Just as I would tell the young man in our church who SO wants to preach that he's not quite ready yet, I see the same in you. You have the heart but need some more maturing, honestly. Just speaking as a sister in Christ - not to attack.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

That is what cagey cals do. They justify their divisive behavior and paint any opposition of disagreement in unrealistic characterizations.

OH NOoooooooo..... LOL, not another one of those "Cagey Calvinists" with their "divisive behavior" Ohhhhhh , bunch of miscreants!!! ROFL

 

[nodak]

JonC--thanks for the clarity. I had misunderstood you.

When I referred to the church as a family I was thinking of those types where nobody so much as has dinner with someone not a member of that church. No being on a regular bowling league at a normal alley, but have to find a church league at a church alley. That sort of thing.

I do still believe when a church is properly evangelizing (which includes initial salvation, understanding and accepting the Lordship of Christ, and discipling growth) there will naturally be deep friendships formed and close fellowship.

My argument is only that when churches get the cart before the horse, as in "come hang with us we won't bother you with repentance and salvation" as some less good versions of the church growth movement have you do it is a problem.

If we keep the main thing the main thing (evangelism) we grow healthy, close knit but not enmeshed churches.

 

[JonC]

Its unfortunate that MOST ministries lack teaching these things.. Very sad indeed....

Do you think it regional (I have been to several churches, but have not actually visited one that lacked the desire or capability of presenting the full Word of God). Perhaps I am therefore "disconnected" with the nation wide norm.

 

[JonC]

JonC--thanks for the clarity. I had misunderstood you.

When I referred to the church as a family I was thinking of those types where nobody so much as has dinner with someone not a member of that church. No being on a regular bowling league at a normal alley, but have to find a church league at a church alley. That sort of thing.

I do still believe when a church is properly evangelizing (which includes initial salvation, understanding and accepting the Lordship of Christ, and discipling growth) there will naturally be deep friendships formed and close fellowship.

My argument is only that when churches get the cart before the horse, as in "come hang with us we won't bother you with repentance and salvation" as some less good versions of the church growth movement have you do it is a problem.

If we keep the main thing the main thing (evangelism) we grow healthy, close knit but not enmeshed churches.

I also misunderstood you. I have seen churches that are really social gatherings as well.