A good way to telephone the false churches?

[Thousand Hills]

http://www.wayofthemasterminute.com

Satan will do all that he can to get me away from preaching the moral law and troubling peoples conscience. To get me away from preaching the holiness of God, judgment, and Gods wrath on sinners. I have sent out many tracts that address these topics to the false teachers and will continue to do so......

Look, I'm like a lot of folks here who were initially impressed with your zeal to reach the lost. But my gut feeling is that you hide behind the evangelist/street preacher title to avoid actually relating to folks face to face. There's a difference between throwing your pearls before swine, and fulfilling the great commission "as you go".

But I do know some Mormon neighbors. Hmm maybe I need to drop off some Mormon tracts at their house. Besides that we do not speak. .....

Okay, good, this would be a great activity for you, your wife, and step son to visit the neighbors. How bout some cookies instead of tracts though?

People at work? Not open to reasoning or the gospel.....

Do your work with integrity, be humble, and let God open the doors.

Besides that I do not know anyone personally but will say I welcome the season to give gifts and include gospel tracts to family members. Or maybe this year I will send a Christmas card to family members I have not contacted in many years.....

Good idea :thumbs:

 

[evangelist6589]

Address them as Pastor. If you are unwilling to show the respect due their office, as proscribed by their church, do not expect them to respect you or what you have to say. There is nothing wrong with a bit of diplomacy.

Perhaps you are correct.

 

[evangelist6589]

Look, I'm like a lot of folks here who were initially impressed with your zeal to reach the lost. But my gut feeling is that you hide behind the evangelist/street preacher title to avoid actually relating to folks face to face. There's a difference between throwing your pearls before swine, and fulfilling the great commission "as you go".







Okay, good, this would be a great activity for you, your wife, and step son to visit the neighbors. How bout some cookies instead of tracts though?







Do your work with integrity, be humble, and let God open the doors.







Good idea :thumbs:

Hmm..... You know I have a dentist an a assistant I have known for 9 months. Why not send them a letter with some gospel tracts?

 

[evangelist6589]

Look, I'm like a lot of folks here who were initially impressed with your zeal to reach the lost. But my gut feeling is that you hide behind the evangelist/street preacher title to avoid actually relating to folks face to face. There's a difference between throwing your pearls before swine, and fulfilling the great commission "as you go".







Okay, good, this would be a great activity for you, your wife, and step son to visit the neighbors. How bout some cookies instead of tracts though?







Do your work with integrity, be humble, and let God open the doors.







Good idea :thumbs:

My wife is a separatist so that complicates things as she does not want her or her child having relationships with unbelievers. A common attitude among IFB churches. However my parents are not like that and I was not raised that way. I will need to branch out on my own. Got any ideas on how I can build relationships? I am not in college and not on a softball team

 

[Salty]

Salty, I gotta disagree. The scripture bares out that women are not preachers/pastors ..

Never said I agree with it (which I do not)
But Rolf had an excellent response

Address them as Pastor. If you are unwilling to show the respect due their office, as proscribed by their church, do not expect them to respect you or what you have to say. There is nothing wrong with a bit of diplomacy.

Bingo!!, maybe this isn't your calling then, maybe you should be putting your effort towards reaching those that you do have common bonds with (work, neighbor, bag boy/cashier at the grocery store, etc.). Its really easy to contact one of these heretics and then get no response and say they're hardened, etc. etc., but it takes a lot more effort to live out your sanctification and practically point those around you to Christ through the events of day to day life.

Friendship Evangelism is an excellent way. Remember - one at a time.
John R. Rice said something along the line of "You may not win the whole world, but you can win one.

 

[matt wade]

Address them as Pastor. If you are unwilling to show the respect due their office, as proscribed by their church, do not expect them to respect you or what you have to say. There is nothing wrong with a bit of diplomacy.

If you were to address the Pope, would you call him "Your Holiness"?

Just because someone calls themselves something doesn't mean we have to abide by that.

 

[matt wade]

Bingo!!, maybe this isn't your calling then, maybe you should be putting your effort towards reaching those that you do have common bonds with (work, neighbor, bag boy/cashier at the grocery store, etc.). Its really easy to contact one of these heretics and then get no response and say they're hardened, etc. etc., but it takes a lot more effort to live out your sanctification and practically point those around you to Christ through the events of day to day life.

Why must you all constantly downplay evangelist6589's methods of reaching lost people? Just because it's not the way you choose to do things doesn't mean it is wrong. What if his methods reach just a single "pastor" at a church teaching false doctrine and then multiplies from there?

You all act like we should just accept the false teachers all around us as lost causes and leave them to their sin and misery.

 

[padredurand]

What I believe to be false doctrine??? Starting a fight????

So you think that Progressive churches are okay? So you think that Unitarian Universalism is good doctrine?

Sometime I wonder about you.

Picture yourself as a pastor of a church. You receive a letter from someone you do not know posing as self-appointed role as exhorter who declares your church apostate. The self-appointed exhorter lists a few "heresies" and proclaims you to be a false leader of a false church. How would you react to the letter?

Days later the self-appointed exhorter calls you at your office and asks if you've repented of your false church and apostate ways. How would you respond to the phone call? Based on your response to criticism on this board I would believe you would have a small stroke - with images of rabbits or rats.

Does that mean I support false doctrine? May it never be. You have no authority over any pastor. In my situation I have two elders who are well-seasoned Godly men. I am accountable to them. If I need to be admonished for incorrect teaching it is their responsibility to address it. I trust their wisdom and hold them in the highest regard.

You lack the discernment, wisdom and authority to be admonishing pastors. Without an established relationship with the church, the elders and the pastor you come across as... how do I say this delicately?... a nut job.

I said earlier that I would first throw your letter in the garbage. When you called I would be polite but ask you not to call again and hang up. Would I do that because I embrace falsehood? No, I would do so because I do not know you yet you take it upon yourself to declare my church and our ministry apostate.

 

[evangelist6589]

Picture yourself as a pastor of a church. You receive a letter from someone you do not know posing as self-appointed role as exhorter who declares your church apostate. The self-appointed exhorter lists a few "heresies" and proclaims you to be a false leader of a false church. How would you react to the letter?

Days later the self-appointed exhorter calls you at your office and asks if you've repented of your false church and apostate ways. How would you respond to the phone call? Based on your response to criticism on this board I would believe you would have a small stroke - with images of rabbits or rats.

Does that mean I support false doctrine? May it never be. You have no authority over any pastor. In my situation I have two elders who are well-seasoned Godly men. I am accountable to them. If I need to be admonished for incorrect teaching it is their responsibility to address it. I trust their wisdom and hold them in the highest regard.

You lack the discernment, wisdom and authority to be admonishing pastors. Without an established relationship with the church, the elders and the pastor you come across as... how do I say this delicately?... a nut job.

I said earlier that I would first throw your letter in the garbage. When you called I would be polite but ask you not to call again and hang up. Would I do that because I embrace falsehood? No, I would do so because I do not know you yet you take it upon yourself to declare my church and our ministry apostate.

I disagree with this post and its attempt to silence people whom take a stand for truth.

It really does not matter because God grants regeneration and has only commanded us to be out witnessing. Witnessing can take the form of passing out tracts, open air preaching, talking with people, sending letters, etc.. As long as the gospel is preached God will open the hearts of those whom the father has called to salvation.

I have actually had long conversation with some of the cults in the past whom had an open mind and were open to reason. I am so thankful so many do not think like you. Also my old pastor plenty of times would engage them.

 

[Revmitchell]

Nut job is a good word for it. That is definitely what it looks like.

 

[Sapper Woody]

If you were to address the Pope, would you call him "Your Holiness"?

Just because someone calls themselves something doesn't mean we have to abide by that.

I would if I were trying to win him over as a friend, thus opening the door for discussion of doctrine.

 

[evangelist6589]

Why must you all constantly downplay evangelist6589's methods of reaching lost people? Just because it's not the way you choose to do things doesn't mean it is wrong. What if his methods reach just a single "pastor" at a church teaching false doctrine and then multiplies from there?

You all act like we should just accept the false teachers all around us as lost causes and leave them to their sin and misery.

A bunch of cowards thats all. My advice for evangelism I learn from the Bible. Its really programs like the Way of the Master which has taught me to reject most of what these people are saying. Thousand Hills has a point on reaching people that I know and of which I am preparing a letter to my dentist and will have some tracts.

 

[evangelist6589]

Nut job is a good word for it. That is definitely what it looks like.

Are you a good person because you sure act like one? Seriously are you a good person so that you need to insult me? Got a few questions for you.

Have you ever lied before?

Have you ever stolen anything before?

Have you ever made a God in your own image and or had idols?

You know you are guilty of breaking Gods law and you deserve Hellfire and Gods wrath. But it was Jesus that forgave you and took your place Mitchell and bore your crimes.

Knowing this whom granted you as a judge over me?

 

[InTheLight]

A bunch of cowards thats all. My advice for evangelism I learn from the Bible. Its really programs like the Way of the Master which has taught me to reject most of what these people are saying. Thousand Oaks has a point on reaching people that I know and of which I am preparing a letter to my dentist and will have some tracts.

 

[evangelist6589]

Hello Space man! Have you been to outer space yet? Your mind sure is there! Its on the moon.

 

[InTheLight]

Hello Space man! Have you been to outer space yet? Your mind sure is there! Its on the moon.

You are insulting godly pastors and others on this board. I'd be very careful or you will be run off this board like you were on that other board you joined for five days last week. Didn't take them long to figure out your act, did it?

 

[Rippon]

I disagree with this post and its attempt to silence people whom take a stand for truth.

Who take a stand for truth.

I have actually had long conversation with some of the cults in the past whom had an open mind and were open to reason.

I have had conversations with cultists in the past who had open minds and were open to reason.

 

[Rippon]

Knowing this whom granted you as a judge over me?

Knowing this who granted you as judge of me?

 

[Revmitchell]

Are you a good person because you sure act like one? Seriously are you a good person so that you need to insult me? Got a few questions for you.

Have you ever lied before?

Have you ever stolen anything before?

Have you ever made a God in your own image and or had idols?

You know you are guilty of breaking Gods law and you deserve Hellfire and Gods wrath. But it was Jesus that forgave you and took your place Mitchell and bore your crimes.

Knowing this whom granted you as a judge over me?

Between this and your very weird post toward ITL well.......They do not look very coherent.

 

[evangelist6589]

You are insulting godly pastors and others on this board. I'd be very careful or you will be run off this board like you were on that other board you joined for five days last week. Didn't take them long to figure out your act, did it?

A poster from this board whom posts here and there told me they are a bunch of wolves on that place. It did not take me long to figure that out as well and I said goodbye to those anti-Calvinists KJVO radicals.