A good way to telephone the false churches?

[matt wade]

A thought just came to me.

Is it possible for "The Way of the Master" too much control over some folks.

Is it possible for some folks to allow hatred too much control in their life? Evangelist is on fire for God and is trying to reach lost souls in a variety of ways. His methods are outside some people's comfort zones so they attack and ridicule him. It's a clear display of hatred having too much control over some folks.

 

[padredurand]

I don't know brother. I think they are just cowards and afraid to go outside their comfort zone.

Cowards?

What is so courageous about sending letters and tracts to churches a single person has deemed a false church. Cowardly is writing letters and making phone calls. If you have a problem with a particular church, man up and meet them face to face.

In stead, why don't you take the same paper and stamp and write a letter of encouragement to a pastor that is in the trenches, proclaiming the Gospel in season and without. Come beside him and lift him up in prayer. In spite of what the book sellers are telling folk there are good, godly men around the world contending for the faith once and for all delivered to the saints.

The Yellowpages list 966 churches in the city of Denver. Surely, there has to be 100 sound churches among that number. Any yahoo can tear a building down. It takes skill to build one. I say it takes more courage to support a Bible believing pastor even if he does quack like your particular duck.

 

[Rolfe]

Hatred? :laugh: Is there a full moon tonight?

 

[matt wade]

From pastor to pope. Laughable.

I would certainly not be disrespectful. Though I may disagree with his beliefs, he is a leader of others whose office is worthy of respect.

So anyone who is a leader of others is now worthy of respect? Shall we use the FULL title of the Pope when addressing him?

His Holiness [papal name], Bishop of Rome, Vicar of Jesus Christ, Successor of the Prince of the Apostles, Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church, Primate of Italy, Archbishop and Metropolitan of the Roman Province, Sovereign of the Vatican City State, Servant of the servants of God.

 

[matt wade]

Cowards?

What is so courageous about sending letters and tracts to churches a single person has deemed a false church. Cowardly is writing letters and making phone calls. If you have a problem with a particular church, man up and meet them face to face.

In stead, why don't you take the same paper and stamp and write a letter of encouragement to a pastor that is in the trenches, proclaiming the Gospel in season and without. Come beside him and lift him up in prayer. In spite of what the book sellers are telling folk there are good, godly men around the world contending for the faith once and for all delivered to the saints.

The Yellowpages list 966 churches in the city of Denver. Surely, there has to be 100 sound churches among that number. Any yahoo can tear a building down. It takes skill to build one. I say it takes more courage to support a Bible believing pastor even if he does quack like your particular duck.

Who says one can't do both? Just because Evangelist sends letters of admonishment doesn't mean he also can't send letters of encouragement.

 

[go2church]

Why is this in the theology forum? No theology in this thread.

 

[Revmitchell]

Why is this in the theology forum? No theology in this thread.

Good question.....

 

[Benjamin]

Picture yourself as a pastor of a church. You receive a letter from someone you do not know posing as self-appointed role as exhorter who declares your church apostate. The self-appointed exhorter lists a few "heresies" and proclaims you to be a false leader of a false church. How would you react to the letter?

Days later the self-appointed exhorter calls you at your office and asks if you've repented of your false church and apostate ways. How would you respond to the phone call? Based on your response to criticism on this board I would believe you would have a small stroke - with images of rabbits or rats.

Does that mean I support false doctrine? May it never be. You have no authority over any pastor. In my situation I have two elders who are well-seasoned Godly men. I am accountable to them. If I need to be admonished for incorrect teaching it is their responsibility to address it. I trust their wisdom and hold them in the highest regard.

You lack the discernment, wisdom and authority to be admonishing pastors. Without an established relationship with the church, the elders and the pastor you come across as... how do I say this delicately?... a nut job.

I think I just had a small stroke because while reading this I had an image of Padre ducking Evan in a Walmart.

Sorry for the interruption...carry on...

 

[Revmitchell]

I think I just had a small stroke because while reading this I had an image of Padre ducking Evan in a Walmart.

Sorry for the interruption...carry on...

I don't see Padre ducking. I doubt Madre would be into that either. Most likely they would just walk away.

 

[evangelist6589]

Who granted you as judge overall these churches?

You have got to be kidding me!!!! You have got to be kidding me!!!!

Are you serious??????? Are you AWARE of what these groups teach????

American Baptist
Charismatic
Emerging
Gay/Homosexual
Judaism
New Age
Seeker
United Methodist
Universalist

Go and spend more time reading your Bible and then go to the websites of these churches.

 

[Scarlett O.]

But how would I address the female pastors without being rude? Women are not pastors and the Bible is clear on this one so should I just address the female by her fist name?

My main goal is seeds in the hearts of the false pastors. Lord willing God will grant faith and repentance and the Holy Spirit will open their hearts to the gospel. He opened the heart of Lydia whom responded to Paul's preaching.

What's this connection you are making between female pastors of the churches you view as teaching heresy and Lydia?

What's this connection you are making between yourself and Paul?

Lydia was a great woman of the Bible. A GREAT woman. She was not a heretic in need of someone mailing her tracts. You insult her.

And you've insulted a lot of good people here by calling them cowards because they don't agree with your opinions about witnessing to others.

As for me, I'll decline in sharing my thoughts with you about your methodology. I'll just say this. You know how people are going to react to you here.

Why then do you insist on posting here about what you do with your ministry over and over and over knowing that there aren't many who agree with the way you go about doing these things? And WHY won't you take anyone's posts to heart and meditate on what has been said?

At this point it is only stirring up discord. God is not glorified in these threads of yours. Why not bring up something else? I know you don't care about talking to me, but there are some great guys here with whom you could have a good cyber-fellowship with if you would make the effort.

 

[Revmitchell]

Go and spend more time reading your Bible and then go to the websites of these churches.

That is rich. Between you and padre the one in most need of reading their Bible more would be you. What those people believe is irrlevent to what padre was saying. What you should do is drop that smugness and listen to what you are being told.

 

[Rolfe]

It certainly was a quiet few days while Evan was on vacation... :laugh:

 

[Rolfe]

Why then do you insist on posting here about what you do with your ministry over and over and over knowing that there aren't many who agree with the way you go about doing these things? And WHY won't you take anyone's posts to heart and meditate on what has been said?

Why? Pride.

 

[evangelist6589]

Who says one can't do both? Just because Evangelist sends letters of admonishment doesn't mean he also can't send letters of encouragement.

I just sent a thank you card and a great letter of encouragement with also 2 tracts to my dentist and his assistant. No Million Dollar bills, just some regular gospel tracts. One by John Piper and one by Mike Gendrin.

 

[padredurand]

You have got to be kidding me!!!! You have got to be kidding me!!!!

Are you serious??????? Are you AWARE of what these groups teach????

American Baptist
Charismatic
Emerging
Gay/Homosexual
Judaism
New Age
Seeker
United Methodist
Universalist

Go and spend more time reading your Bible and then go to the websites of these churches.

Nice dodge. Now answer the question. You get all in a huff when someone interacts with your threads. How do you think a pastor is going to react?

 

[Rippon]

Evan, take what many of the posters here have said to heart.

Spend more quality time with your wife and far less on internet forums.

Take a haitus from speaking of twotm.

Your pastor must be a very gracious man. Listen more, and speak less.

 

[evangelist6589]

What's this connection you are making between female pastors of the churches you view as teaching heresy and Lydia?

What's this connection you are making between yourself and Paul?

Lydia was a great woman of the Bible. A GREAT woman. She was not a heretic in need of someone mailing her tracts. You insult her.

And you've insulted a lot of good people here by calling them cowards because they don't agree with your opinions about witnessing to others.

As for me, I'll decline in sharing my thoughts with you about your methodology. I'll just say this. You know how people are going to react to you here.

Why then do you insist on posting here about what you do with your ministry over and over and over knowing that there aren't many who agree with the way you go about doing these things? And WHY won't you take anyone's posts to heart and meditate on what has been said?

At this point it is only stirring up discord. God is not glorified in these threads of yours. Why not bring up something else? I know you don't care about talking to me, but there are some great guys here with whom you could have a good cyber-fellowship with if you would make the effort.

That is why this is a DEBATE form. There is a WOTM episode of Ray and Kirk boxing. The point was to teach evangelists that there will be Plenty of blows from people for the work of an evangelist but to keep at it until the bel rings and Christ calls us home.

 

[Don]

Please explain, in detail, how you are fulfilling the Great Commission by sending these letters to these churches.

 

[evangelist6589]

Thousand Hills an idea. I am gonna make candy bags and my wife and I are gonna pass then out to kids and also have a tract inside in our neighborhood.