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A Land of Immigrants

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Reynolds

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I think it's worthy of note that in most situations involving an invading people, such as America and the Europeans, the existing people (native Americans) just interbred with the new people. But that idea was so repulsive to the Europeans, and even the Vikings before them, that they simply wouldn't mate with the native Americans. The Vikings just left. The Europeans stayed.

I think it was due to the fact that white males are not attracted to native American females, and the Indians preferred to remain backward pagan savages, rather than advance into a more civilized culture.

All cultures are not equal. Most cultures aren't worth preserving, because they add nothing to the world. They keep people enslaved to superstitious nonsense, promote inequality and injustice, impede technological advancement, keep the people oppressed and ignorant, and promote false truths.

Western European culture, on the other hand, is responsible for the discovery or invention of hospitals and the University system; modern firearms, industrialized civilization, classroom education for children, education of women, education of ethnic minorities, women's sports, the free-market economy, the USA, the Catholic Church,

architecture, the physical laws of nature, chemistry, physics, biology, engineering, laundry machines, automated textile manufacturing, cutting scrolls into pages and binding them into books, spaces between words, lowercase letters, paragraphing, punctuation,

International law, court systems based on physical evidence and eye-witness testimony, natural rights, antibiotics and most other drugs, all vaccines, efficient iron refinement and steel making, fossil fuel, nuclear energy, electricity, science, canonizing the Bible, the Christian church throughout most of the world, harnessing solar energy, hydro-electric dams, dining with tables and chairs, butchering meat,

space exploration, plumbing, refrigeration, cell phones, television, computers, aircraft, Band-Aides, microwave ovens, petroleum mining and refining, automobiles, toilets, toilet paper (one of the best inventions of all time, and one of the draws the West has on Muslims; in Islamic nations toilet paper is referred to as diabolical western evil on a roll!)

White people give more money to charity, educate more children, provide more medical assistance, devise more cures for disease, and invest more in third-world nations' economies than any other group. The Catholic Church is the largest medical provider and the largest educator in the world.

I've only made the most brief list, but in truth, white people have added almost everything worthwhile to the world. There are a few exceptions. The original manuscripts included in the Holy Bible were transcribed from God by non-whites.

It is exactly in the plan of Satan that--after whiles have built industrialized civilization--other cultures want to kill whites off and steal everything for themselves.
I am going to wait until I am over being extremely ticked off before replying. I will say, if Native American women were so ugly, the Europeans would not have repeatedly raped them.
 

InTheLight

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All cultures are not equal. Most cultures aren't worth preserving, because they add nothing to the world.

Is that the gold standard, then? Would you eliminate all cultures that didn't meet your definition of adding to the world?

They keep people enslaved to superstitious nonsense, promote inequality and injustice, impede technological advancement, keep the people oppressed and ignorant, and promote false truths.

Like the Amish, I guess.

White people give more money to charity, educate more children, provide more medical assistance, devise more cures for disease, and invest more in third-world nations' economies than any other group. The Catholic Church is the largest medical provider and the largest educator in the world.

I've only made the most brief list, but in truth, white people have added almost everything worthwhile to the world.

All people no matter what the color of their skin were created by God.

There are a few exceptions.

Like slavery. Genocide of the Jews.
Do you oppose these actions?

It is exactly in the plan of Satan that--after whiles have built industrialized civilization--other cultures want to kill whites off and steal everything for themselves.

I think you should take your racist rants and leave this board for somewhere that it's welcome, because you're not welcome here.



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I think it's a myth that jobs exist that no American will perform. End the food stamp program, and we'll see how many of those jobs go unfilled. If people want social-welfare, they can live in work camps, in tents, perform agricultural work, eat in a cafeteria tent, with no liquor or drugs permitted, separate women's and men's quarters, but anyone is free to leave at any time.

That's not what folk who have apple orchards in he area I grew up say. They say Americans now are too lazy oto work. Like a teenager told me. He said, "I want a job with a big salary that requires no work."

I had a new roof put on my house several years ago. The crew were all Hispanics. The owner, a natural born citizen, said he could not find Americans who were willing to work ... and yes he paid top wages. These Hispanics completed the job in one day ... and took time off to help my elderly neighbor, a woman, clean her gutters and did not charge her.
 
I am going to wait until I am over being extremely ticked off before replying. I will say, if Native American women were so ugly, the Europeans would not have repeatedly raped them.
I'm not sure why the Europeans did not desire children by the Indian females. You say it's because they were ugly. Perhaps that is the reason. But there could have been other reasons.

Also, reports of rape by Europeans among the Indian women are not substantiated. Given the sheer numbers of people, it probably occurred to some degree. But I don't think it was a common practice. The native American females were largely inaccessible to outsiders. The opportunity simply wasn't there.
 

Reynolds

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I'm not sure why the Europeans did not desire children by the Indian females. You say it's because they were ugly. Perhaps that is the reason. But there could have been other reasons.

Also, reports of rape by Europeans among the Indian women are not substantiated. Given the sheer numbers of people, it probably occurred to some degree. But I don't think it was a common practice. The native American females were largely inaccessible to outsiders. The opportunity simply wasn't there.
You said "I think it's worthy of note that in most situations involving an invading people, such as America and the Europeans, the existing people (native Americans) just interbred with the new people. But that idea was so repulsive to the Europeans, and even the Vikings before them, that they simply wouldn't mate with the native Americans."
The idea of mateing with Native American women was repulsive? Thats what you said. You said nothing about the women being unavailable.
 

HankD

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This response gives me no useful feedback. Could you elaborate?
I felt sure you would be accused of being a white supremacist or racist after your remarks about "white people" and indeed you were.

Then again you perhaps are not "white people".

Of course you have the right of free speech to express those ideas about "white people" , at least today 8/28/2017.

HankD
 
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Is that the gold standard, then? Would you eliminate all cultures that didn't meet your definition of adding to the world?
I believe all people have the right to life. But I also believe the world would be better if everyone adopted Western European culture, especially Christianity and the US Constitution.



Like the Amish, I guess.
The Amish are Western Europeans.



All people no matter what the color of their skin were created by God.
I fully agree. But what does that have to do with this discussion thread?



Like slavery. Genocide of the Jews.
Do you oppose these actions?
Slavery in the US was to ransom black-African prisoners of war from death. The rival tribes in Africa are still constantly at war. In the past, slave merchants were able to ransom the lives of the conquered tribes. But to perpetuate the practice required economic stimulus. So, the slaves were sold. Otherwise, they would have been left to die.

There are those who would have it that no African-American exist today, and that in the past conquered tribes would have been slaughtered as they are today. If it wasn't for slavery, African Americans wouldn't exist. They're ancestors would have been slaughtered as prisoners of war. So, if anyone cares about African Americans, they can thank slavery for their existence.

Hitler lost his father when he was 13. It was particularly painful to him when he lost his mother who was under the care of a Jewish physician at the time. Hitler reasoned like this:

It was so painful for me to lose my mother.
I would like others to be spared this agony.
My mother died in the care of a Jewish doctor.
If there were no Jews, no ones mother would die under the care of Jewish doctor.
Therefore, the way to prevent others from the suffering what I endured is genocide.

I'm a Christian, so I wouldn't have thought of genocide as the way to utopia. But that was the flaw with Hitler. He didn't observe Christ's doctrine of forgiveness. And that leads to sin. Sin leads to death.





I think you should take your racist rants and leave this board for somewhere that it's welcome, because you're not welcome here.
Would you please be more specific. I think you're overly sensitive. And, I have proof to back up my statement that other cultures are trying to exterminate whites. Islamic terrorists kill almost exclusively whites. I'm not racist at all. I just tell it like it is. But perhaps I have too much faith in others to put the pieces together.

In any event, if something I said offended you, please accept my apology. I hope to avoid doing so in the future. But if you don't like the truth, you won't like what I write. You can call it racist rants, but you're not correct. See my signature.
 
You said "I think it's worthy of note that in most situations involving an invading people, such as America and the Europeans, the existing people (native Americans) just interbred with the new people. But that idea was so repulsive to the Europeans, and even the Vikings before them, that they simply wouldn't mate with the native Americans."
The idea of mateing with Native American women was repulsive? Thats what you said. You said nothing about the women being unavailable.
I did not say that European men found native American females repulsive. Perhaps I used a poor choice of word. I should have said, the Europeans didn't want the genetic code of the native Americans to be a part of their own offspring. Now, of course I'll be called racist.

But then every person who marries a certain a spouse of a certain race has rejected the DNA of other races from being part of their own offspring. So, everyone who has reproduced with a member of a certain race--to the exclusion of other races--is racist!
 

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Guys, he is filling the void left after Zaac's banning. My guess is that he will eventually follow if he keeps going on.
 

rsr

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I have seldom read such complete hogwash as you have made in your past few postings.

I can't even begin to list them.

Listen: The world has a long list of civilizations — Chinese, Korean, Indian, Persian, Japanese, Mesopotamian, Egyptian, Ethiopian, Arab, Mayan — who were living in advanced cities when Europeans were living in mud huts.

It is true that over the past four centuries Europeans have had a technical advantage that allowed for some major advances — and conquest of less technical peoples. Those days are numbered. The West has committed suicide for the last century and other peoples are picking up on the technology that Westerners thought was a gift of God and his special blessing.

If it were not for immigration, the United States would be in the same shape as Western Europe — a fertility rate below the replacement rate, essentially a society in hopeless decline.
 

Reynolds

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I did not say that European men found native American females repulsive. Perhaps I used a poor choice of word. I should have said, the Europeans didn't want the genetic code of the native Americans to be a part of their own offspring. Now, of course I'll be called racist.

But then every person who marries a certain a spouse of a certain race has rejected the DNA of other races from being part of their own offspring. So, everyone who has reproduced with a member of a certain race--to the exclusion of other races--is racist!
Nah, I won't call you a racist. The rules do not allow it.
 

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I did not say that European men found native American females repulsive. Perhaps I used a poor choice of word. I should have said, the Europeans didn't want the genetic code of the native Americans to be a part of their own offspring. Now, of course I'll be called racist.!

Poor choice of words?

I think it was due to the fact that white males are not attracted to native American females, and the Indians preferred to remain backward pagan savages, rather than advance into a more civilized culture.

Those nasty Indians! Why wouldn't they want to adopt a culture that hated them, killed them and drove them from their land? Ungrateful savages.
 

rsr

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That would be denigrating jackasses, I'm afraid. Jackasses, after all, do not find horses repulsive.
 

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Well, I don't see why it is considered to be so bad to have a sub-replacement fertility rate, except that it hurts the welfare state but mass immigration really won't help there if the immigrants are the recipients of the welfare state. Japan sure doesn't think they're the answer.

The US colonized the land, ran the native people off and established European culture here - that is NOT immigration, that is colonization. And that plaque on the Statue of Liberty comes from a socialist poet and was slapped on there by her friends years after it was in the harbor.

About colonization, Spaniards mixed with the natives in Mexico - cultural relativism is not the opposite of cultural superiority - define "superior". Some cultures are more advanced than others, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are "better" in every regard.
 
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