A Nuanced Examination of Exodus 20:1-17

[Christina1]

It’s not a matter of belief.

God’s Bible states it.

What do you do?

Do you split verses 3-6?
Do you split verse 17?
Do you adopt verse 2 as the first?
Or do you do something else that we haven't thought of yet?

 

[Christina1]

I'm curious to see what you guys think. You don't have to be so shy about this. There's no wrong answers here. How do you get to ten commandments?

Do you split verses 3-6?
Do you split verse 17?
Do you adopt verse 2 as the first?
Or do you do something else that we haven't thought of yet?

 

[MrW]

Look at context:

1. No God but Me
2. No idols nor bowing to them nor serving them
3. No taking God’s name in vain
4. Remember sabbath to keep it holy
5. Honour father and mother
6. No murder
7. No adultery
8. No stealing
9. No lying
10. No coveting what belongs to others

 

[Oseas3]

Then why are you here? Please leave this conversation if you think it's so silly.

This isn't hard.
How do you personally get to ten commandments?
Do you split verses 3-6?
Do you split verse 17?
Do you adopt verse 2 as the first?
Or do you do something else that we haven't thought of yet?
You have an opportunity to share your understanding of the ten commandments. What are they? List them. Tell us what you think.
That's the topic of discussion. If it's a silly topic then go somewhere else. Please.

Your thinking is from a human perspective, -Genesis 3:1 -a stumbling block, not from GOD's perspective-Matthew 16:23. Get a look.

The the Gentiles, have not the law, they are WITHOUT Law, and now neither the Jews may be under the Law as slaves of the Law. GOD made a new Covenant with the Jews, and GOD extended His kindness to the Gentiles, without the Law.

 

[Oseas3]

Must be a serious enough topic if some Biblical scholar thought it worthy to include A WHOLE PARAGRAPH on this subject as a footnote in the Holy Bible:

The precise numbering and division of these precepts into “ten commandments” is somewhat uncertain. Traditionally among Catholics and Lutherans vv. 1–6 are considered as only one commandment, and v. 17 as two. The Anglican, Greek Orthodox, and Reformed churches count vv. 1–6 as two, and v. 17 as one. Cf. Dt 5:6–21. The traditional designation as “ten” is not found here but in 34:28 (and also Dt 4:13 and 10:4), where these precepts are alluded to literally as “the ten words.” That they were originally written on two tablets appears in Ex 32:15–16; 34:28–29; Dt 4:13; 10:2–4.

The present form of the commands is a product of a long development, as is clear from the fact that the individual precepts vary considerably in length and from the slightly different formulation of Dt 5:6–21 (see especially vv. 12–15 and 21). Indeed they represent a mature formulation of a traditional morality. Why this specific selection of commands should be set apart is not entirely clear. None of them is unique in the Old Testament and all of the laws which follow are also from God and equally binding on the Israelites. Even so, this collection represents a privileged expression of God’s moral demands on Israel and is here set apart from the others as a direct, unmediated communication of God to the Israelites and the basis of the covenant being concluded on Sinai.

Revelation 16:13-15

13 - I saw three unclean spirits like frogs(a SATANIC trinitry, why frogs?) come out of the MOUTH of the dragon(RED DRAGON-REVELATION 12:3-4&9) and out of the MOUTH of the Beast,(the Beast of sea-Revelation 13:1-10) and out of the MOUTH of the false prophet. (false preachers of the Word of GOD, ministers of the Devil-2Corinthians 11:13-15, the TAIL of the red Dragon-Isaiah 9:15-16 and 56:10-11.Take a look )

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great Day of GOD Almighty-JESUS-Rev.1:8- combined with Matthew 28:18 among other biblical references).

JESUS WARNED:
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. (By the way, your apron made by the leaves of fig tree after faall in the power of Devil, it is good for nothing).

Be careful or else get ready

 

[Oseas3]

THREE UNCLEAN SPIRITS LIKE FROGS - WHY FROGS? | Pure Bible Forum (and see www.sinaiticus.net )

 

[Christina1]

Look at context:

1. No God but Me
2. No idols nor bowing to them nor serving them
3. No taking God’s name in vain
4. Remember sabbath to keep it holy
5. Honour father and mother
6. No murder
7. No adultery
8. No stealing
9. No lying
10. No coveting what belongs to others

So you align with the verse 3 school of thought.

I think you'll like Scarlett's post from the previous thread. She wrote the clearest, most succinct argument for the verse 3 school of thought that I have seen so far:

Separate Verse 3 and Verse 4-6

Do you like this argument?

As Kyredneck pointed out, the simplicity of it is what I appreciate most.

 

[MrW]

So you align with the verse 3 school of thought.

I think you'll like Scarlett's post from the previous thread. She wrote the clearest, most succinct argument for the verse 3 school of thought that I have seen so far:

Separate Verse 3 and Verse 4-6

Do you like this argument?

As Kyredneck pointed out, the simplicity of it is what I appreciate most.

Actually, I align with the Scripture in its logical context. If someone agrees, that’s fine, too.

Scarlett said it well.

 

[Christina1]

Revelation 16:13-15

13 - I saw three unclean spirits like frogs(a SATANIC trinitry, why frogs?) come out of the MOUTH of the dragon(RED DRAGON-REVELATION 12:3-4&9) and out of the MOUTH of the Beast,(the Beast of sea-Revelation 13:1-10) and out of the MOUTH of the false prophet. (false preachers of the Word of GOD, ministers of the Devil-2Corinthians 11:13-15, the TAIL of the red Dragon-Isaiah 9:15-16 and 56:10-11.Take a look )

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great Day of GOD Almighty-JESUS-Rev.1:8- combined with Matthew 28:18 among other biblical references).

JESUS WARNED:
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. (By the way, your apron made by the leaves of fig tree after faall in the power of Devil, it is good for nothing).

Be careful or else get ready

You're off topic. I'm trying very hard to keep this thread on topic this time. I need your help.

Today's questions are simple (or maybe not so simple).

How many commandments are there and what are they?

(Could this be the missing commandment?)
2 I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.

(Verses 3-6, one or two commandments?)
3 You shall not have other gods beside me.4 You shall not make for yourself an idol or a likeness of anything in the heavens above or on the earth below or in the waters beneath the earth; 5 you shall not bow down before them or serve them. For I, the Lord, your God, am a jealous God, inflicting punishment for their ancestors’ wickedness on the children of those who hate me, down to the third and fourth generation; 6 but showing love down to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments.

(One or two commandments?)
17 You shall not covet your neighbor’s house.You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, his male or female slave, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.

This is the topic of discussion. And as Scarlett pointed out in the previous thread, we've pretty much already established that there are ten commandments. We can still discuss the number if you want to but I'm more focused on the second part of that question at this point.

How do you split the verses so as to get to ten?

What are the ten commandments?

Can you list them?

That's the topic. If you're not interested in discussing it, then I'm asking you to leave the thread. Please.

 

[Oseas3]

You're off topic. I'm trying very hard to keep this thread on topic this time. I need your help.

This is the topic of discussion. And as Scarlett pointed out in the previous thread, we've pretty much already established that there are ten commandments. We can still discuss the number if you want to but I'm more focused on the second part of that question at this point.

How do you split the verses so as to get to ten?

What are the ten commandments?

Can you list them?

That's the topic. If you're not interested in discussing it, then I'm asking you to leave the thread. Please.

Your thinking is from a HUMAN perspective, A STUMBLING BLOCK - Genesis 3:1-, not from GOD's perspective-Matthew 16:23

 

[Christina1]

Your thinking is from a HUMAN perspective, A STUMBLING BLOCK - Genesis 3:1-, not from GOD's perspective-Matthew 16:23

This isn't about what I think. It's about what you think.

What do you do to get Ten Commandments?

Do you split verses 3-6?
Do you split verse 17?
Do you adopt verse 2 as one of the ten?
Or do you do something else that we haven't thought of yet?

 

[Christina1]

This isn't your average debate thread. It's a thinking thread with a narrow focus. I want to know how you number the commandments and why you number them that way.

 

[Oseas3]

This isn't about what I think. It's about what you think.
What do you do to get Ten Commandments?

Do you split verses 3-6?
Do you split verse 17?
Do you adopt verse 2 as one of the ten?
Or do you do something else that we haven't thought of yet?

Now the serpent (the fig tree) was/is the more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord GOD has made, and said unto the woman, Yea, has GOD said,
3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy GOD am a jealous GOD, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
7 Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy GOD in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.
13 Thou shalt not kill.
14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
15 Thou shalt not steal.
16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.


This isn't about what I think, says the serpent. It's about what you think.
What do you do to get Ten Commandments?
Do you split verses 3-6?
Do you split verse 17?
Do you adopt verse 2 as one of the ten?
Or do you do something else that we haven't thought of yet?

Look, Satan, what matters and prevails is what JESUS said, the Law prophesied until John the Baptist. Go down to the abyss, Satan, to the bottomless pit. This is an order, go down to the abyss, Satan, this is a command from GOD.

 

[Christina1]

Scarlett, Jon... I'm done.

Please lock this thread. They can't handle it.

 

[Scarlett O.]

Thread closed at request of OP.