A Resolution Condemning White Supremacy Causes Chaos at the Southern Baptist Convention

[Reynolds]

Are you saying that White Supremacists are Christ-like?

Nope. I am saying social issues are not necessarily racist and shouldn't be broadly grouped that way.

 

[Reynolds]

First of all I new this would be posted on here and I knew who would post. I am here in Phoenix right now as I type this post having been at the convention this week. The original resolution as written was completely rejected by the resolutions committee because the language was deemed inflammatory and the term "alt-right" was too vague. This was the description of the chairman of the resolutions committee during the meeting.

After some discussion Steve Gains the president called for a vote to allow further discussion on it. It required a 2/3 vote and it did not pass. As a result Steve Gaines talked to the resolutions committee about rewriting the resolution to clearly define "alt-right" and remove the inflammatory language. When that was completed, this afternoon, it was then voted on and passed almost unanimously. The term "alt-right" is clearly defined as "white supremacists".

I was pleased to vote on the final resolution but refused to vote on the original. The original resolution was
sophomoric, inflammatory, and worded out of emotion rather than reason. Steve Gains and the resolution committee and led this situation with great honor, and in the Spirit of the Lord unlike those who were pushing for the original resolution.

So, you cleaned up an inflammatory, racist, motion and passed it anyway knowing full well the original intent if the motion? I know the final bill is worded fine, but should the spirit behind the orig proposal have been a deal killer and ended it right then and there?

 

[Revmitchell]

So, you cleaned up an inflammatory, racist, motion and passed it anyway knowing full well the original intent if the motion?

Uh no. We changed the nature of the resolution so as to condemn what anyone including you and I should always condemn without the inflammatory language that created an alternate meaning and intent. It robbed the original intent of its meaning and turned it in a way that not even the flaming individuals could complain at least publically that they were ignored.

 

[Reynolds]

Uh no. We changed the nature of the resolution so as to condemn what anyone including you and I should always condemn without the inflammatory language that created an alternate meaning and intent. It robbed the original intent of its meaning and turned it in a way that not even the flaming individuals could complain at least publically that they were ignored.

The orig intent was to inflame and divide. That should have been a deal ender.

 

[Revmitchell]

The orig intent was to inflame and divide. That should have been a deal ender.

It was it did not pass the resolutions committee nor was there a vote in favor of it. Those two actions in and of themselves show it was a deal ender. Now taking the original resolution and removing the inflammatory language means the original intent was reduced to condemning white supremacy and all forms of racism. Do you not also condemn those things?

 

[Crabtownboy]

So, you cleaned up an inflammatory, racist, motion and passed it anyway knowing full well the original intent if the motion? I know the final bill is worded fine, but should the spirit behind the orig proposal have been a deal killer and ended it right then and there?

What is you view of White Supremacists? Are they Christ-like?

 

[Reynolds]

It was it did not pass the resolutions committee nor was there a vote in favor of it. Those two actions in and of themselves show it was a deal ender. Now taking the original resolution and removing the inflammatory language means the original intent was reduced to condemning white supremacy and all forms of racism. Do you not also condemn those things?

Of course. I would not pass a bill condemning anything if the original intent of the bill was racism. I am Native American. I am definitely not partial to white supremacy. I would not let bad behavior from a group of black men push me to do anything. In like manner, I NEVER support the native pride morons on any of their initiatives.

 

[Reynolds]

What is you view of White Supremacists? Are they Christ-like?

Since you want to get snippy and childlike, I will just tell you that if I was an anything supremacist, it would be a red supremacist. My view, if it came down to strictly race, would be all you homeland invaders can get back to Europe and Africa. Now, can we put the conversation back on an adult level?

 

[Salty]

Since you want to get snippy and childlike, I will just tell you that if I was an anything supremacist, it would be a red supremacist. My view, if it came down to strictly race, would be all you homeland invaders can get back to Europe and Africa. Now, can we put the conversation back on an adult level?

and likewise the "orginal inhabiates" could back to to Asia

and leave America can be
"where the buffalo roam
Where the deer and the antelope play
Where seldom is heard a discouraging word
And the skies are not cloudy all day"

 

[Reynolds]

and likewise the "orginal inhabiates" could back to to Asia

and leave America can be
"where the buffalo roam
Where the deer and the antelope play
Where seldom is heard a discouraging word
And the skies are not cloudy all day"

If the Buffalo ask us to leave, I will then entertain that idea.

 

[Alcott]

Yeah. It is beyond left-wing to decry every form of racism. We need to get back to our roots.

"White supremacy" is every form of racism? Little wonder that advocating equality is now racism in the eyes of democraps and leftists. An article about Black Lives Matter recently informed that it will accept no white members. Yes or No: is that racism?

As for the SBC, this thread and just about everything else said about its origin is that it was started to defend or support slavery. It was started because of the northern Baptists had resolved no to appoint slaveholders as missionaries. They were probably asked if they would refuse Philemon, but I don't know their answer. Anyway, owning slaves is not a scriptural disqualification for being a missionary. Nevertheless, the SBC first passed a resolution in 1968 advocating for racial equality and declaring that any believer is welcome, and then in the mid-90's there was another one pushing the theatrics with it about how pastors should pick a black Christians (hopefully in their own congregations) and bring them to the front and ask their personal forgiveness for the convention not being more active sooner in pushing for equality. And I remember a few more since then. What are they doing? movie takes or something? In the meantime there are few all-white churches I know about, but many all-black.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Since you want to get snippy and childlike, I will just tell you that if I was an anything supremacist, it would be a red supremacist. My view, if it came down to strictly race, would be all you homeland invaders can get back to Europe and Africa. Now, can we put the conversation back on an adult level?

You did not answer my question, do the White Supremacists exhibit Christ-like qualties?

 

[Reynolds]

You did not answer my question, do the White Supremacists exhibit Christ-like qualties?

It deserves no answer.

 

[Crabtownboy]

It deserves no answer.

Grow up and be a man. Answer the question.

 

[Reynolds]

Grow up and be a man. Answer the question.

Hilarious, coming from you,

 

[Crabtownboy]

Hilarious, coming from you,

I see you are not honest enough to address the question. Let's change the question.

Are you sympathetic with the WS and their beliefs?

Socrates summed you up perfectly.

 

[Reynolds]

I see you are not honest enough to address the question. Let's change the question.

Are you sympathetic with the WS and their beliefs?

Socrates summed you up perfectly.

You again describe yourself.
If you look back, the question was answered. You are the one slandering me by repeatedly making the inference I am a white supremacist or I am sympathetic to them. Remove the beam from your eye, then you may worry about me. Are you just annoying, a bit slow, or really just outright dumb enough to believe that I would think myself inferior to a white man or be sympathetic to a belief system that says I am?

 

[Squire Robertsson]

CTB, Reynolds has already said he is Native American (post #27). He just hasn't told us his tribe.

I see you are not honest enough to address the question. Let's change the question.

Are you sympathetic with the WS and their beliefs?

 

[Reynolds]

CTB, Reynolds has already said he is Native American (post #27). He just hasn't told us his tribe.

The documented bloodline is Cherokee, Eastern band. I am also Creek, but not fully documentable due to my great grandmother refusing to pass on her tribal information to her descendants.

 

[Revmitchell]

Of course. I would not pass a bill condemning anything if the original intent of the bill was racism..

And that attitude is what causes so much division. Gaines was looking to bring people together while still accomplishing something worth while With the original intent set aside and the new intent leaving the originators without reason to complain. The meeting ended peaceful. Complaining about that is absurd.