A Resolution Condemning White Supremacy Causes Chaos at the Southern Baptist Convention

[Reynolds]

And that attitude is what causes so much division. Gaines was looking to bring people together while still accomplishing something worth while With the original intent set aside and the new intent leaving the originators without reason to complain. The meeting ended peaceful. Complaining about that is absurd.

No, complaining about rewarding bad behavior is never absurd. How many times does the SBC need to condemn racism? It has already been condemned. This was simply an act of rewarding bad behavior. Never, in any way, reward bad behavior.

 

[Aaron]

I did not want this discussion restricted only to Baptists, so I put it here.

I am glad to have read the Convention passed the resolution condemning White Supremacy and the Alt. Right.

Please read the entire article.
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Leaders from the Southern Baptist Convention were divided over a resolution affirming the denomination’s opposition to white supremacy and the alt-right during their annual meeting in Phoenix this week. On Tuesday, they initially declined to consider the proposal submitted by a prominent black pastor in Texas, Dwight McKissic, and only changed course after a significant backlash. The drama over the resolution revealed deep tension lines within a denomination that was explicitly founded to support slavery.

A few weeks before the meeting was slated to start, McKissic published his draft resolution on a popular Southern Baptist blog called SBC Voices. The language was strong and pointed.

It affirmed that “there has arisen in the United States a growing menace to political order and justice that seeks to reignite social animosities, reverse improvements in race relations, divide our people, and foment hatred, classism, and ethnic cleansing.” It identified this “toxic menace” as white nationalism and the alt-right, and urged the denomination to oppose its “totalitarian impulses, xenophobic biases, and bigoted ideologies that infect the minds and actions of its violent disciples.” It claimed that the origin of white supremacy in Christian communities is a once-popular theory known as the “curse of Ham,” which taught that “God through Noah ordained descendants of Africa to be subservient to Anglos” and was used as justification for slavery and segregation. The resolution called on the denomination to denounce nationalism and “reject the retrograde ideologies, xenophobic biases, and racial bigotries of the so-called ‘alt-right’ that seek to subvert our government, destabilize society, and infect our political system.”

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When the Socialists took power in the Eastern Bloc nations, church leaders convened to praise the party platforms of equality and to denounce the greed and imperialism of the former regimes.

It was rhetoric to mask the fact that the cowards were merely trading the doctrines of Christ for the rule of the Communists. Those that recognized that fact and would not bow the knee were arrested. Many were never heard from again.

At least there, the threat of death hovered over them. Here, they're jumping into bed with the harlot willingly.

Not surprised you approve.

 

[Revmitchell]

No, complaining about rewarding bad behavior is never absurd.

I am about as conservative as one gets. In fact if Falwell were alive he would have to look right to see me. I can say with all confidence that this was not rewarding bad behavior. It appears you believe the only solution to what McKinsic wanted was to simply ignore him. As a pastor I can tell you that is never a good idea not in a church and not in the convention. What Gaines did was defuse the situation and bring about unity. Had it been handled your way there would have been no unity and some hard feelings.

How many times does the SBC need to condemn racism? It has already been condemned.

I agree it has and that fact was brought up in the final resolution as well as the fact it is in our BF&M.

This was simply an act of rewarding bad behavior. Never, in any way, reward bad behavior.

Your characterization here is simply short sided and wrongheaded.

 

[Reynolds]

I am about as conservative as one gets. In fact if Falwell were alive he would have to look right to see me. I can say with all confidence that this was not rewarding bad behavior. It appears you believe the only solution to what McKinsic wanted was to simply ignore him. As a pastor I can tell you that is never a good idea not in a church and not in the convention. What Gaines did was defuse the situation and bring about unity. Had it been handled your way there would have been no unity and some hard feelings.



I agree it has and that fact was brought up in the final resolution as well as the fact it is in our BF&M.




Your characterization here is simply short sided and wrongheaded.

You can justify it any way you like. Simple fact is that had there not been an act of bad behavior, this resolution would not have been passed. It was a response to, and I contend a reward for, bad behavior. The proper response would have been to ignore or condemn his motion. Condemnation of the motion would have been the most appropriate response. This is ridiculous. Next will be a convention name change.

 

[Bro. James]

The phrase: "... prominent black pastor from Texas" says a lot about the subtle forms of racism which are rampant at most levels of our society, including those called Baptist . hat would the reaction have been if a prominent white pastor had made the proposal? There are still a sizeable group of "equal but separate" folks out there.

It is sad to see that there are still churches which separate people by their skin color. The amount of melanin in one's skin has absolutely nothing to do with anything except perhaps the number on the sunblock preparation to use.

This may not settle out until The Bema Seat. Are we ready?

Time to repent.

Even so come, Lord Jesus.

Bro. James