A woman teaching men?

[canadyjd]

Since Paul, under inspiration of The Holy Spirit, prohibited women to teach men; then what you propose would constitute a division in the Godhead.
Holy Spirit prohibited it and Jesus ordains it?????

Acts 18:26 clearly states that both Aquila and his wife Priscilla taught Apollos the way of God more perfectly. Luke was also writing under inspiration of God Holy Spirit. How do we reconcile the passages?

First, It is significant that Priscilla is mentioned as part of the instruction at all, given the Jewish bias against women. She obviously contributed with her husband. Second, the instruction took place outside the congregation, after Apollos spoke. This is consistent with Paul’s instructions in 1 Timothy and 1 Corinthians concerning women not teaching men (in church) and keeping silent (in church)

Paul’s prohibition against women teaching men is in the context of church leadership. Paul was very concerned about orderly worship services and clearly wanted avoid any distractions.

There is no indication from scripture that women are “more easily deceived” than men. In fact, it was the women who understood Jesus was teaching He would die and anointed Him for His death with costly perfume.

The male disciples are usually portrayed as knuckleheads unable to understand what Jesus was saying and abandoned Him to His death while the women stood fast at the foot of the cross.

Jesus first appeared to the women and revealed He was risen and instructed the women to tell the men that very important spiritual truth.

peace to you

 

[canadyjd]

Just to repeat, Jesus first appeared to the women and He, Jesus, instructed the women to tell the men He had risen.

These women were instructed by Jesus to reveal the most important truth in history to the men who had abandoned Him.

peace to you

 

[AustinC]

No, that would be cause for me to leave a congregation.

A man would be parroting a woman's teachings and thus a woman would be given teaching authority over, at the very least, the man that is parroting her. This does not even include the men that would be in the room receiving the "teaching". Even without the verses in Timothy, Isaiah is pretty clear on women "ruling" as being a judgement on a nation. Paul, and Genesis also tells us that women are more gullible than men. That is a particular problem for a person developing a lesson.

The American Church for some reason in modern times likes to see how close it can get to the red line before it steps over it. Our default position should instead always be how FAR can we can move away from the red line and from grey areas, not how close can I get to a defined sin before I get burned.

Ephesians tells us to give no opportunity to the devil. I believe the Bible and think that's a good idea we ought follow.

Truth is truth, regardless of who wrote it down. Leaving a church because a Godly woman wrote the curriculum is a sure sign of a person having a "wish dream" that has become an idol in place of the body of Christ. (Read Bonhoeffer's "Life Together", chapter one on Community.)

 

[canadyjd]

Concerning who is easily deceived..

Jesus tells all who follows Him that He will die in Jerusalem….

A woman gets a jar of costly perfume and annoints Him for His death. Jesus commends her.

Peter tells Him to stop talking like that. Jesus says “get behind Me Satan”

Who was deceived? The woman or Peter?

peace to you

 

[Silverhair]

To think that women can not be called by God to teach is naive. To think that all men that stand in a pulpit to preach are called by God is worse than being naive.

 

[Reynolds]

To think that women can not be called by God to teach is naive. To think that all men that stand in a pulpit to preach are called by God is worse than being naive.

God does not contradict Scripture. So if you think God calls women to teach men in the assembly, then you are in rebellion to Scripture.

 

[AustinC]

God does not contradict Scripture. So if you think God calls women to teach men in the assembly, then you are in rebellion to Scripture.

True, God does not contradict Himself. Therefore your interpretation must be wrong.

 

[JamesL]

Women not being allowed was simply Paul's preference.

The whole chapter, he spoke about what HE wanted to see.

 

[JamesL]

God does not contradict Scripture. So if you think God calls women to teach men in the assembly, then you are in rebellion to Scripture.

Maybe in "rebellion" to Paul's personal preference.

Most would just call it a difference of opinion

 

[Reynolds]

To think that women can not be called by God to teach is naive. To think that all men that stand in a pulpit to preach are called by God is worse than being naive.

God does not contradict Scripture. So if you think God calls women to teach men in the assembly, then you are in rebellion to Scriptu

True, God does not contradict Himself. Therefore your interpretation must be wrong.

Nothing to interpret. Paul was perfectly plain.

 

[Reynolds]

Maybe in "rebellion" to Paul's personal preference.

Most would just call it a difference of opinion

So the Pauline Epistles are now not inspired? They are just recordings of Paul's personal preferences? You sound like Beth Moore.

 

[Reynolds]

Women not being allowed was simply Paul's preference.

The whole chapter, he spoke about what HE wanted to see.

It was an inspired writing. Good try though.
Verse 15 shows you that the passage goes far beyond Paul's preference.

 

[Salty]

LETS KEEP THE DISCUSSION ON THE OP

ie: A lesson plan written by a female to be used in a mens class?

We are NOT talking about a lady preaching or teaching --- if you want to discuss that - then please start a new thread.

 

[JamesL]

So the Pauline Epistles are now not inspired? They are just recordings of Paul's personal preferences? You sound like Beth Moore.

Ok, so my exact words were "THE WHOLE CHAPTER..."

and that somehow inspires you to try to accuse me of saying "the Pauline epistles" ??

There's either some serious lack in your mental function, or you are deliberately committing libel.

Which is it? We'll wait

 

[JamesL]

LETS KEEP THE DISCUSSION ON THE OP

ie: A lesson plan written by a female to be used in a mens class?

We are NOT talking about a lady preaching or teaching --- if you want to discuss that - then please start a new thread.

Where is the biblical basis for the question?
Do you have a particular passage in mind where someone might develop an opinion?

By the way, I keep getting emails from your Pastor Source website and it won't allow me to change settings

 

[JamesL]

It was an inspired writing. Good try though

So was 1Corinthians 7:12 where Paul was actually inspired to include his own personal opinion and let us know plainly that it was from him and not God.

My guess is maybe you don't understand inspiration

 

[canadyjd]

Women not being allowed was simply Paul's preference.

The whole chapter, he spoke about what HE wanted to see.

Back to the OP. There is no reason a male SS teacher should not use material/insight offered by a woman in his perpetration for teaching other men. If the woman’s material is in error (as well as the men who are referenced) then hopefully the male SS teacher will have the discernment to avoid the errors.

peace to you

 

[canadyjd]

So was 1Corinthians 7:12 where Paul was actually inspired to include his own personal opinion and let us know plainly that it was from him and not God.

My guess is maybe you don't understand inspiration

You are misunderstanding Paul in 1 Corinthians 7:12. Paul is asserting his apostolic authority as one commissioned by God to reveal truth that is as if God Himself spike the words.

He is not saying his teachings can be disregarded if you disagree with them.

peace to you

 

[JamesL]

You are misunderstanding Paul in 1 Corinthians 7:12. Paul is asserting his apostolic authority as one commissioned by God to reveal truth that is as if God Himself spike the words.

He is not saying his teachings can be disregarded if you disagree with them.

peace to you

He said plainly that it came from him, and specifically pointed out that it was not from God

 

[canadyjd]

He said plainly that it came from him, and specifically pointed out that it was not from God

He is saying God gave no specific command on the issue but He, as God’s anointed Apostle, has been given the authority from God to speak on God’s behalf. His words are God’s inspired truth and should be followed as if God Himself spoke directly to them.

peace to you