Abomination of Desolation Was Indeed Already Fulfilled

I do not believe preterism as you know full well. I believe as the Waldenses did, and Huss, and the Lollards, as well as the reformers that the POPE IS ANTICHRIST.
I believe the historicism teachings,the only non Catholic unddefrstanding of the prophecies.
I dodt know why you contend with me and not with the RC trolls on here . I suppose it is because you have inbibed their teaching.

 

HAHAHA You are a funny fellow. You have not proved yours one bit. You have no Scripture, so telling me that you won't answer until I prove mine, doesn't work that way. You prove your premise, then I'll answer more. If not, I really do not care. I know what I believe and have been following since I was pastor of my first church in 1982.

 

My apologies.

I don't.
I happen to believe that an anti-Christ is represented there, but not THE Anti-Christ of Revelation.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

I read the Scriptures, and that is what I get out of them...along with the "doctrines of grace" and much more.

I have no desire to offend anyone, just to explain what I believe and why.

I heard the word of God in an Independent Baptist church in 1978 when I was 12 years old.

At the age of 37 in 2003, a friend of mine, who received Christ in 1991, gave me some passages of Scripture and I was convinced of God's choice of the sinner to salvation.
That jump-started my Bible reading from stagnant, to study almost overnight.
For over 25 years before that, I'd lived a life less-than-pleasing to the Lord.

In 2005 I left the church I'd grown up in, joined another, more conservative "Traditionalist" church in another part of town ( I live in an area of over 350,000 people ) and tried to convince the pastor there of election, predestination and so forth.
He couldn't see it any more than the church I'd come from.

I knew then that it was time to go.
I left my second Baptist church ( one of only a few in town that I thought was even remotely biblical in their practice ) in 2006.

Since that time, I've attended visible churches a total of 4 times, never staying for more than two services.
I've assembled together with one other brother every weekend for the past 13 years, taking every teaching and doctrine back to Scripture.

Some teachings I've had to scrap and rebuild from God's word alone...
Some I've had to modify.
Some I've had to learn, having never been exposed to them in the Baptist circles I was part of.

None of it was what I believe to be Roman Catholic in origin.
Much of it was either "Arminian" or "Traditionalist" in origin

I've only been in a Roman Catholic church 3 times in my life ( for weddings ), and was struck with how alien it felt seeing statues of people and watching people bow to them and go through all sorts of rituals.
With the exception of a few general teachings that are common to the Bible, I know of nothing "Roman Catholic" that I have imbibed.

Again, may God bless you sir.

 

We aren't discussing apes with graduate degrees, we're discussing legitimate credentials. You can complain about the illegitimate, put the purpose of the credentials isn't to identify the professional, rather it is to prevent unaccredited individuals from practicing.

You just made my point "For prophecy came not by the will of man at any time: but the holy men of God spoke, inspired by the Holy Ghost." [2 Peter 1:21]. That's why he said "that no prophecy of scripture is made by private interpretation." [2 Peter 1:20]. You on the other hand have taken it on yourself to know or know not what is holy, what is right and what is righteous, what is spiritually true and what you don't want to be spiritually true.

JoeT

 

Your PRETERISM is DEFINITELY a jeezit invention, and is as phony as a Chevy Mustang.

 

I've never seen a man-made Chevy Mustang.

 

No, it's all invented. Scripture must be believed LITERALLY AS POSSIBLE. Most of what symbolism there is, is explained by other passages.

 

That's why preterism is just as phony.

 

TALX LIKE A PRET...WRITES LIKE A PRET...

 

You are deranged. I am not a preterist but a Historicist the only teaching of prophecy which was not invented by Jesuits.

 

When you can't answer you always lie or used insults.

 

My historicism was taught from the early church and was taught by the saints and martyrs through the ages. It is still taught by the faithful today.
Preterism wa taught by the Jesuit Alcazar deflect the teaching of Christians that the pope is Antichrist.
Fututurism was taught by Jesuits Belarmine,

 

There's no greater accreditation than spending three years with Jesus during his ministry. Some of Jesus' followers in the first century, especially Paul, were fluent in reading the Hebrew scriptures. God provided an outpouring of powerful miracles to empower the first century disciples. Are you really sure you want to equate some uneducated pastor down the block with the Apostles?

The New Testament never refers to Jesus as "the Messiah" except to instruct us to say "Christ". Also, Jesus didn't say he did not come to abolish the Torah, but he said "the law". Why do you reject the vocabulary of the New Testament?

No one figuratively blind thinks they're blind. Rather, they think they know enough.

 

The meaning of the words isn't at issue in my question. I asked why you reject the vocabulary of the New Testament and you refused to answer.

 

The Greek word "Christ" has long been adopted into English. And, if you otherwise wanted English, then you'd say Anointed, which you have not said.

Your statement sounds you're fishing for a reason. How do "Law" and "Christ" no long pertain to their original meanings? And, if they don't, don't you think you're part of the problem in refusing to use them with their original meanings?

When did the Greek word "law" ever specifically mean the Pentateuch? What else does "Christ" mean other than Messiah?

I love the Pentateuch and the entire Bible. I think when you're pointing the a finger at me about not liking something, you have three fingers pointing back at you. And, that thing you don't like is the Bible's Christian vocabulary, as well as the English equivalence. So, why?