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Then you have answered my question and it is yes based on your belief. if a person thinks an open marriage is not a sin it is not a sin to them and not sin. Or if a person thinks it is alright to cheat on their taxes it is alright for them and not sin.
If you got that from what I posted, you are most incorrect.
You will not find such proof in my post, nor would anyone else except someone who desires to read into a post whatever they design irregardless of the truth.
Perhaps, you would be so kind as to specifically point to the exact phrase in which I made the answer to your question a positive?
Perhaps, in your zeal to claim ground in the thread, you are misreading, and as I have done and made an open apology for doing on a thread or two, assumed a view that is not characteristic with the post.
:thumbs::thumbs:Seems to me that I remember reading somewhere where someone said, "Abstain from ALL APPEARANCE of evil."
Oh yeah, it was God the Holy Spirit who said that!!! :thumbs: [I Thessalonians 5:21]
For someone (posting as you do) who holds to the "commandments" would you show were a man is in sin to have an "open marriage" and then compare that to the expressions of the OP?
Do the same with the taxes, please.
No doubt you will see that those items are specifically stated as sinful deeds, but the OP has no such joining in Scriptures.
If you determine something to be sin, then for you it is sin. However, Paul states twice that "all things are lawful, but not all things are expedient."
Paul certainly does not give license to sin, nor does he condone sin in that statement. For such a person would be one to take Paul's statement, "Let no man seek his own, but every man another's wealth" as meaning we can rightfully steal and rob the rich and poor alike.
Then you have answered my question and it is yes based on your belief. if a person thinks an open marriage is not a sin it is not a sin to them and not sin. Or if a person thinks it is alright to cheat on their taxes it is alright for them and not sin.
Could you define that in terms of every day application for everyone?Seems to me that I remember reading somewhere where someone said, "Abstain from ALL APPEARANCE of evil."
It is hard to relate this thread at all to everyday life or average people. People who make a living of being the center of attention basically contribute nothing to society, Christian or non Christian. As said before, the only way I can relate to a Hollywood star is the off switch.Could you define that in terms of every day application for everyone?
Seems to me that I remember reading somewhere where someone said, "Abstain from ALL APPEARANCE of evil."
Oh yeah, it was God the Holy Spirit who said that!!! :thumbs: [I Thessalonians 5:21]
I used to struggle with a lot of things that I do not any more. For example I used to struggle with building for the rich but then I thought about the skills I have and how God has provided I became glad that I could give the rich pleasure by the work I did and give my money to the church. Otherwise it might have ended in the hands of someone else. It has given me many opportunities to share my faith in arenas that few have the opportunity. Among some of the rich I have seen generosity and among some of the poorer I have seen greed. All of the things scripture talks about is not limited to a particular class of people.It is hard to relate this thread at all to everyday life or average people. People who make a living of being the center of attention basically contribute nothing to society, Christian or non Christian. As said before, the only way I can relate to a Hollywood star is the off switch.
I have always had a problem relating to the rich, those that thought they were rich, and those seeking to be the center of attention. Working with and mingling with average, everyday folks makes me feel more comfortable. I guess it really does not have so much to do with wealth, but those that take for themselves and never give.I used to struggle with a lot of things that I do not any more. For example I used to struggle with building for the rich but then I thought about the skills I have and how God has provided I became glad that I could give the rich pleasure by the work I did and give my money to the church. Otherwise it might have ended in the hands of someone else. It has given me many opportunities to share my faith in arenas that few have the opportunity. Among some of the rich I have seen generosity and among some of the poorer I have seen greed. All of the things scripture talks about is not limited to a particular class of people.
Today I feel blessed that God opens doors for me.
My skills allow me to work for the rich and also to do work for little or nothing for those who have need. It allows me to do the same kind of level of work for organizations such as churches who need help.
I find there is a difference between the rich who worked for wealth and those who were given it by their parents. Some of the rich I know live far from what they could. If I took you to some of their homes you would probably walk away feeling humbled. I know one who makes around $45 million each year and lives in a home that has a 2 car garage and his family drives a Camry and Jeep. He and his wife have adopted a young boy who has special needs. He is one of the nicest and most polite men I have ever met. A friend of mine and I built his family a very nice home but his dining table is one he built in high school. If I told you about the company he runs you would easily know who I am talking about. Every time he came to the job he remembered the names of the workers and thanked them for what they did.I have always had a problem relating to the rich, those that thought they were rich, and those seeking to be the center of attention. Working with and mingling with average, everyday folks makes me feel more comfortable. I guess it really does not have so much to do with wealth, but those that take for themselves and never give.
I understand your reasoning, and it is definitely something that needs work on in my life.
I find there is a difference between the rich who worked for wealth and those who were given it by their parents. Some of the rich I know live far from what they could. If I took you to some of their homes you would probably walk away feeling humbled. I know one who makes around $45 million each year and lives in a home that has a 2 car garage and his family drives a Camry and Jeep. He and his wife have adopted a young boy who has special needs. He is one of the nicest and most polite men I have ever met. A friend of mine and I built his family a very nice home but his dining table is one he built in high school. If I told you about the company he runs you would easily know who I am talking about. Every time he came to the job he remembered the names of the workers and thanked them for what they did.
When my family wanted to see the finished home I gave him a call and he gave them the VIP tour. I know that he grew up in a home that was average.
I know another man who sold one of his businesses for $630 million and he now lives in a manufactured home simply because he is using his money to help people who are in need. He completely finances an organization that helps pregnant women in a large city. He finances a camp that kids can attend who have very little. I know people he has helped get started in business so they can make a good living.
REally?
I could have used it a few times!
Do you blow the smoke, rub out the cigaret, spit some chew or grab a big cigar to lite up and relax until the pain goes away?
I would assume you mean put a leaf on the sting?
I wonder if marijuana would work the same way?
So like I said,
So if a person thinks an open marriage is not a sin it is not a sin to them and not sin correct? Or if a person thinks it is alright to cheat on their taxes it is alright for them and not sin, correct?
Indeed.All the more reason to guard the heart and what we get into.
I disagree that a "good heart" does not do things that are inconsistent with the precepts and principles of God but should not.
In actuality it happens and is a problem in the church today.
Take the Corinthians for instance, Paul calls them saints but they were involved in some very unsaintly behavior or the church at Thyatira who were committing porneia.
They had been taught by Jezebel to do these things, it was not the norm and the Lord warned them of punishment.
However, that these things can be done does not justify the depiction/glorification of unlawful lust or a child of God being involved in its glorification even though it is not actually committed but simulated, there must of necessity be a likemindedness.
James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
1 John 2
15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
1 John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.
HankD
No.Does this mean that we should NOT have ANY Christian movies made, unless they are all husband and wife in each role? No 10 Commandments, Jesus of Nazareth, Passion of christ etc?
That is a wise decision.Just hope that I am NOT the one to deliver message to chuck norris that he is a "fake' christian!