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Adultery

Reynolds

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Oy vey...you are wasting your time here. Best you let the other posters defend their posts, as clearly you haven't read their posts and arguments.


You can answer this though...

Is divorce and remarriage adultery?

a. Yes
b. No
You left out the correct answer.
C. Sometimes
 

Reynolds

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So you believe Jesus provided a loophole by which one can divorce and remarry and be exempt from being an adulterer?

Please explain.
Nope. I believe Jusus plainly said under those circumstances, one could divorce and re-marry without being an adulterer.
A loophole is a legal concept where one can do wrong yet avoid prosecution due to a defect in the law. This is NOT a case of a loophole
 
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Reynolds

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Nope. No C and not B

A is the only choice.

Unless one is trying to excuse sin, or trying to sin without rebuke.
C is the only choice.

Maybe Johnny Mac can clear it up for you:

"Mt.5:32 Divorce was allowed in cases of adultery. Luke 16:18 must be understood in the light of this verse. makes her the victim of adultery. The assumption is that divorced people will remarry. If the divorce was not for sexual immorality, any remarriage is adultery, because God does not acknowledge the divorce.".
 
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church mouse guy

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You are way over the top because you violate the rules of debate, which are among others to represent your opponent's points accurately.

You are unjust. You say that you are Christian but yet you misrepresent people's viewpoints. I notice a lot of Catholics do that. Do you think that Jesus lied when He said that Moses allowed divorce for adultery?
 

church mouse guy

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Let's keep conversation in the realm of the current age. It's difficult to make judgements about those who lived in a completely different era - especially if we judge them by today's standards. However, you must admit Henry VIII was an easy call. I think you're a little to quick to judge.

It may appear to you that Catholics are hypocritical on one hand, but on another they are interacting in a society that is primarily Protestant, morals are subjective and vary from Protestant faith to faith. Protestants have no problems with interfaith marriages, after all to the Protestant, one Christian faith is as good as another, the only loyalties are to themselves, the only vow kept is to make no commitment. Vows are practically meaningless and are to be avoided, furthermore there is no stigma once broken. Hence, in a mixed marriage with a Catholic the non-Catholic is not bound by the same faith. Consequently, I view the situation equally the fault of Protestantism.

A Protestant should not marry a Catholic because the RCC has cursed all Protestants to hell.
 

utilyan

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You are way over the top because you violate the rules of debate, which are among others to represent your opponent's points accurately.

You are unjust. You say that you are Christian but yet you misrepresent people's viewpoints. I notice a lot of Catholics do that. Do you think that Jesus lied when He said that Moses allowed divorce for adultery?

"You are way over the top because you violate the rules of debate, which are among others to represent your opponent's points accurately."

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Like when you insist Catholics worship Marry, the Pope, the devil, and tacos?

It is impossible to debate a Catholic without the bread and butter of misrepresentation.
 

Walpole

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You are way over the top because you violate the rules of debate, which are among others to represent your opponent's points accurately.

How exactly did I do that? After all, I provided the links to your posts.

You are unjust. You say that you are Christian but yet you misrepresent people's viewpoints. I notice a lot of Catholics do that. Do you think that Jesus lied when He said that Moses allowed divorce for adultery?

No, Jesus did not lie because Jesus did not say Moses allowed divorce for adultery. He said Moses permitted divorce because "of your hardness of heart", not because your spouse committed adultery. Here are the words of Moses, which Jesus referenced...

Deuteronomy 24:1 (KJV) When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give [it] in her hand, and send her out of his house.
 

church mouse guy

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"You are way over the top because you violate the rules of debate, which are among others to represent your opponent's points accurately."

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Like when you insist Catholics worship Marry, the Pope, the devil, and tacos?

It is impossible to debate a Catholic without the bread and butter of misrepresentation.

All I said about Mary was that she is not co redemtrix and New Advent said she died in 48 AD. The rest of your charges are garbage
How exactly did I do that? After all, I provided the links to your posts.



No, Jesus did not lie because Jesus did not say Moses allowed divorce for adultery. He said Moses permitted divorce because "of your hardness of heart", not because your spouse committed adultery. Here are the words of Moses, which Jesus referenced...

Deuteronomy 24:1 (KJV) When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give [it] in her hand, and send her out of his house.

Well, what you did was that you tried to say that I supported adultery, which was your spin and is not accurate but you have had to carry that stuff into two threads.

Your comment about what Jesus said is a inaccurate also because the point is that Moses allowed divorce in cases of adultery, which is what Jesus said. The hardness of heart relates to the adultery, not the divorce.

Catholics imposed no divorce on Christianity. The Jewish Law permitted divorce and Jesus said that He came to fulfill the Law, so you have no evidence that anyone other than the RCC changed the Law.

A rich Catholic can contact the Vatican and donate enough money to get an annulment. Everyone knows that. You can do whatever you want in your personal life but the USA is not a Catholic country and you cannot impose your private opinions on a Protestant country.

Do you think that McCarrick's have sex with boys and men of all ages is adultery? Do you think that Vigano is correct that Pope Francis knowingly covered up for McCarrick's homosexual rapes? Do yo think that Pope Francis ought to man up and resign?
 

Walpole

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All I said about Mary was that she is not co redemtrix and New Advent said she died in 48 AD. The rest of your charges are garbage


Well, what you did was that you tried to say that I supported adultery, which was your spin and is not accurate but you have had to carry that stuff into two threads.

Your comment about what Jesus said is a inaccurate also because the point is that Moses allowed divorce in cases of adultery, which is what Jesus said. The hardness of heart relates to the adultery, not the divorce.

Catholics imposed no divorce on Christianity. The Jewish Law permitted divorce and Jesus said that He came to fulfill the Law, so you have no evidence that anyone other than the RCC changed the Law.

A rich Catholic can contact the Vatican and donate enough money to get an annulment. Everyone knows that. You can do whatever you want in your personal life but the USA is not a Catholic country and you cannot impose your private opinions on a Protestant country.

Do you think that McCarrick's have sex with boys and men of all ages is adultery? Do you think that Vigano is correct that Pope Francis knowingly covered up for McCarrick's homosexual rapes? Do yo think that Pope Francis ought to man up and resign?

Please give me the words of Moses permitting divorce in the case of adultery in Deuteronomy 24. (Don't spend too much time looking because it isn't there.) After all, the punishment for adultery was death (Deuteronomy 22:22) and hence you can't divorce a dead person.

Now, go on the record and answer this question, lest you continue to accuse me of being unjust and not stating your position clearly:

---> Is divorce and remarriage adultery?

a. Yes
b. No
 

church mouse guy

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Please give me the words of Moses permitting divorce in the case of adultery in Deuteronomy 24. (Don't spend too much time looking because it isn't there.) After all, the punishment for adultery was death (Deuteronomy 22:22) and hence you can't divorce a dead person.

Now, go on the record and answer this question, lest you continue to accuse me of being unjust and not stating your position clearly:

---> Is divorce and remarriage adultery?

a. Yes
b. No

You have no basis or right to say that my reference to Jesus saying that Moses allowed divorce for adultery is my support for adultery. The RCC stands alone on this issue. You are just trying to denigrate others and insult them because the RCC says that all non-Catholics go to hell and you want us to know that you agree that we are going to hell so that you do not have to ever be polite or kind. There are some nice Catholics in Indianapolis and they do not talk like you do. And Indianapolis even had the homosexual Tobin here as archbishop. Do you think that practicing homosexual clergy should be promoted by Pope Francis since it is clear that he is not going to weed them out?

What do you think that some uncleanness is? Do you think what McCarrick did and how Pope Francis covered it up and sent him to China and Cuba and the selling out of the RCC in China so that the communists appoint the bishops there, do you think that the rapes of McCarrick are uncleanness? What percentage of the American RCC priesthood do you think is practicing sodomy all the time?

Finally, if Jesus said that Moses allowed divorce for adultery and Moses did not then Jesus was either lying or did not know what he was talking about by your logic. Which is it?
 
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Reynolds

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Please give me the words of Moses permitting divorce in the case of adultery in Deuteronomy 24. (Don't spend too much time looking because it isn't there.) After all, the punishment for adultery was death (Deuteronomy 22:22) and hence you can't divorce a dead person.

Now, go on the record and answer this question, lest you continue to accuse me of being unjust and not stating your position clearly:

---> Is divorce and remarriage adultery?

a. Yes
b. No
You have reading comprehension issues?
 

Walpole

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You have no basis or right to say that my reference to Jesus saying that Moses allowed divorce for adultery is my support for adultery. The RCC stands alone on this issue. You are just trying to denigrate others and insult them because the RCC says that all non-Catholics go to hell and you want us to know that you agree that we are going to hell so that you do not have to ever be polite or kind. There are some nice Catholics in Indianapolis and they do not talk like you do. And Indianapolis even had the homosexual Tobin here as archbishop. Do you think that practicing homosexual clergy should be promoted by Pope Francis since it is clear that he is not going to weed them out?

What do you think that some uncleanness is? Do you think what McCarrick did and how Pope Francis covered it up and sent him to China and Cuba and the selling out of the RCC in China so that the communists appoint the bishops there, do you think that the rapes of McCarrick are uncleanness? What percentage of the American RCC priesthood do you think is practicing sodomy all the time?


Stop dodging and go on the record...

---> Is divorce and remarriage adultery?

a. Yes
b. No


Finally, if Jesus said that Moses allowed divorce for adultery and Moses did not then Jesus was either lying or did not know what he was talking about by your logic. Which is it?

Are you not even bothering reading the Scriptures? Once again, Jesus didn't say Moses allowed divorce for adultery. Rather, Jesus said Moses allowed divorce because "of your hardness of heart", not because your spouse committed adultery.

---> "He saith unto them, 'Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.'" - Matthew 19:8-9, KJV

Here are the words of Moses, which Jesus referenced...

---> "When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give [it] in her hand, and send her out of his house." - Deuteronomy 24:1, KJV


Once again, Moses wrote the penalty for adultery was death, not divorce. (Deuteronomy 22:22)
 
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church mouse guy

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Stop dodging and go on the record...

---> Is divorce and remarriage adultery?

a. Yes
b. No




Are you not even bothering reading the Scriptures? Once again, Jesus didn't say Moses allowed divorce for adultery. Rather, Jesus said Moses allowed divorce because "of your hardness of heart", not because your spouse committed adultery.

---> "He saith unto them, 'Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.'" - Matthew 19:8-9, KJV

Here are the words of Moses, which Jesus referenced...

---> "When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give [it] in her hand, and send her out of his house." - Deuteronomy 24:1, KJV


Once again, Moses wrote the penalty for adultery was death, not divorce. (Deuteronomy 22:22)

You just keep repeating and smearing. Let us know if the Pope covered up for McCarrick and if homosexual rspe is adultery?
 
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