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Earth Wind and Fire

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I love how you are rude to people for being rude.

Do you not see your own hypocrisy there? Probably not. That is why you do not like the op. You don't mind people putting on airs- it does not bother you- in fact you prefer it because it veils the painful reality- that you are not as great as you try to think you are.

I think this kind of falseness is a tremendous hindrance to reaching people in our culture.

I am not insecure about it. That is not my motive for starting such threads. My motive is to challenge thinking that I believe is harmful to the work of Christ.

Being full of bull is certainly one of those things.

Er, Ahhhh....yea & Pharisaical :saint: :laugh:
 

mactx

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I have to wonder, what attribute of Christ are we portraying when we are rude and hurtful to one another? Or bickering back and forth with one another.
He was bold, he was forthright and he could be blunt.
He was never, ever rude or hurtful.
 

Luke2427

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I have to wonder, what attribute of Christ are we portraying when we are rude and hurtful to one another? Or bickering back and forth with one another.
He was bold, he was forthright and he could be blunt.
He was never, ever rude or hurtful.

Define rude and hurtful.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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I have to wonder, what attribute of Christ are we portraying when we are rude and hurtful to one another? Or bickering back and forth with one another.
He was bold, he was forthright and he could be blunt.
He was never, ever rude or hurtful.

When He called people hypocrates, that was being kind?

We are all adults here, so nobody needs to be scolded. However the backbiting is getting ridiculous. Thankfully this topic reminds me of a wonderful Bible study lesson....see attached. :godisgood:

http://eddiegriffinbiblestudy.blogspot.com/2009/05/strain-at-gnat-and-swallow-camel.html
 
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mactx

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When He called people hypocrates, that was being kind?

We are all adults here, so nobody needs to be scolded. However the backbiting is getting ridiculous. Thankfully this topic reminds me of a wonderful Bible study lesson....see attached. :godisgood:

http://eddiegriffinbiblestudy.blogspot.com/2009/05/strain-at-gnat-and-swallow-camel.html
He was being blunt to those who refused salvation because they were so caught up in their own rightness they had become fools.
He wasn't nit picking or just being mean. He wasn't arguing just for the sake of an argument.

The Bible itself is clear on such things.
Gal 5:18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality,
Gal 5:20 idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions,
Gal 5:21 envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
Gal 5:23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.
Gal 5:24 And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
Gal 5:25 If we live by the Spirit, let us also keep in step with the Spirit.
Gal 5:26 Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.

It is one thing to have a frank discussion another to argue and bicker.
 

drfuss

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An interesting thread.

Years ago, I had a Pastor who, if he had a bad week, would come and dump it on the congregation and pull the whole church down. You would come to church to worship the Lord, and then be pulled down to his discouragement level. I want my Pastor to "put on airs" for the good of the church.

I have noticed that people who have "loosing their temper" problems, assume that everyone has that problem. A hotheaded pastor I had, said that anyone who says that they do not loose their temper, is lying because everyone looses their temper. Of course, that is not true. First Corinthians 13 says love is not easily provoked (some translations say is not provoked).
 

Luke2427

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He was being blunt to those who refused salvation because they were so caught up in their own rightness they had become fools.
He wasn't nit picking or just being mean. He wasn't arguing just for the sake of an argument.

The Bible itself is clear on such things.


It is one thing to have a frank discussion another to argue and bicker.

Act 9:29 And he spake boldly in the name of the Lord Jesus, and disputed against the Grecians: but they went about to slay him.

Act 17:17 Therefore disputed he in the synagogue with the Jews, and with the devout persons, and in the market daily with them that met with him.

Acts 19:8 And he went into the synagogue, and spake boldly for the space of three months, disputing and persuading the things concerning the kingdom of God.

Acts 19:9 But when divers were hardened, and believed not, but spake evil of that way before the multitude, he departed from them, and separated the disciples, disputing daily in the school of one Tyrannus.

Titus 1:10 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: 11Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake. 12One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies. 13This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;

Gal 2:11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.

Jud 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort [you] that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
 

Luke2427

Active Member
An interesting thread.

Years ago, I had a Pastor who, if he had a bad week, would come and dump it on the congregation and pull the whole church down. You would come to church to worship the Lord, and then be pulled down to his discouragement level. I want my Pastor to "put on airs" for the good of the church.

I have noticed that people who have "loosing their temper" problems, assume that everyone has that problem. A hotheaded pastor I had, said that anyone who says that they do not loose their temper, is lying because everyone looses their temper. Of course, that is not true. First Corinthians 13 says love is not easily provoked (some translations say is not provoked).

But avoiding dumping your feelings upon the people is not putting on airs. It is being faithful to preach the word regardless of the circumstances.

What I am talking about is the act of projecting a level of mastery of the Christian life which you do not even remotely possess.

This facade hinders people from witnessing what the Lord is actually doing in your sanctification process so that people cannot be encouraged by it.

It also, for those who are fooled by it, makes struggling Christians feel like they are simply inferior and not likely to ever be successful like you are in the Christian life.

It is also likely to exalt yourself in your own mind. The worst person one fools with airs is himself.

It also engenders an atmosphere of fault-finding and judgment. No one is free to be real for fear of being judged by those who seem to have it all together.
 
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