Alcohol

[HeirofSalvation]

That is one of the all time dumbest things I have seen posted on this board.


Translation: I want to have the freedom to be as rude and arrogant as I want to without being held accountable for it and questioned about it.


Yea we get it.

Rev... while I don't condone unnecessarily harsh tonality and I am personally guilty of being unnecessarily harsh (even rude) sometimes...I truly understand where Luke is coming from.

Honestly, I understand where he is coming from.
To some extent, it's merely a personallity issue:
To some extent, it's a facet of personal experience
To some extent...it's also the frustration of a truly intelligent and educated man who CONSTANTLY is required to act as though the statements of the incurrably stupid are meritorious.....they aren't...and it's problematic for some who are dedicated to truth-claims...

Luke cares about truth.
Luke believes that it is almost treasonous (in a way) as though he feels like he is not "earnestly contending for the faith" to pretend as though the repeated false, un-Scriptural, and ill-informed (stupid in modern parlance) statements are to be treated as though they are EQUALLY as deserving of consideration and merit as a more reasoned or educated one is....

ALL POSTERS ARE NOT EQUAL

Some are brilliant and insightful...most are hit and miss..
some are incurrably ignorant and stupid.

Cut him SOME slack....
He may be a little harsh...but, honestly...that's because what he is fighting is the constant temptation to scream about how moronic he thinks so many posters are, and ironically, it is often the most ill-informed posters who are simultaneously the most indignant, superior, insulting, dogmatic and insufferably un-teachable....

While a brotherly encouragement towards civility may be in order....remember to remind him in such a way as to not emulate those facets which you also personally find objectionable....I know I am guilty of much in-civility here sometimes too...and I am taught by the grace and forebearance often shown towards me when I err on that level.

 

[Luke2427]

Rev... while I don't condone unnecessarily harsh tonality and I am personally guilty of being unnecessarily harsh (even rude) sometimes...I truly understand where Luke is coming from.

Honestly, I understand where he is coming from.
To some extent, it's merely a personallity issue:
To some extent, it's a facet of personal experience
To some extent...it's also the frustration of a truly intelligent and educated man who CONSTANTLY is required to act as though the statements of the incurrably stupid are meritorious.....they aren't...and it's problematic for some who are dedicated to truth-claims...

Luke cares about truth.
Luke believes that it is almost treasonous (in a way) as though he feels like he is not "earnestly contending for the faith" to pretend as though the repeated false, un-Scriptural, and ill-informed (stupid in modern parlance) statements are to be treated as though they are EQUALLY as deserving of consideration and merit as a more reasoned or educated one is....

ALL POSTERS ARE NOT EQUAL

Some are brilliant and insightful...most are hit and miss..
some are incurrably ignorant and stupid.

Cut him SOME slack....
He may be a little harsh...but, honestly...that's because what he is fighting is the constant temptation to scream about how moronic he thinks so many posters are, and ironically, it is often the most ill-informed posters who are simultaneously the most indignant, superior, insulting, dogmatic and insufferably un-teachable....

While a brotherly encouragement towards civility may be in order....remember to remind him in such a way as to not emulate those facets which you also personally find objectionable....I know I am guilty of much in-civility here sometimes too...and I am taught by the grace and forebearance often shown towards me when I err on that level.

I quite literally could not have said it better.

I tried in another thread to express why I do what I do- but this statement is better.

I appreciate it. I know it will not win you political points here.

 

[DHK]

Rightly divided in its context- absolutely!

But just posted with no context, no exegesis that proves it says what you purport it says-no! And no one ever should, DHK. No one ever should.

What do you think the context is that would prohibit you from following this command in our society?
The weaker brother in that context was the one, that by eating meat associated with idolatry, may tempt him to go back into idolatry. Why would the stronger brother tempt his weaker brother to such a degree that he might fall or stumble in his Christian life and be influenced by idolatry once again?

In the same way why would one drink an alcoholic beverage in the presence of one with an alcoholic background, perhaps a former alcoholic, a recovering alcoholic, one struggling with it, if it would only cause him to stumble. The problem is: in public you often don't know who has those kind of problems and who does not.