Featured Am I Now IFB?

I did not assume what you think.

Now how is my understanding to this point wrong? The Apostles wrote those teaches down and passed it to some church or churhes which in turn made copies and have been passed down to us.

 

My appologies back. I agree that that to whom the speaker in the text or the audience to whom the writer was addressing must he one of the first things be considered in interpreting a text.

In Matthew 28:19-20 Jesus was addressing His disciples who He instructed to teach their disciples His teachings to them. As I understand, in turn down to us.

 

Just my opinion, which I am careful when sharing. The first problem would be that you think that one can lose their salvation. That is a huge no, no in the IFB camps. One who has accepted Christ as Savior is saved eternally or the Bible is not true. (Romans 8, Ephesians 1:13; 4:30, Jesus said that He would never leave us nor forsake us.
Also, being that you are not a Dispensationalist, would it be that you are a Covenant Theologian? If so, that would take you out of IFB camp. Even though the other things are acceptable, mostly, but depending on which camp of IFB. I don't know of a IFB that is not Dispensational... Again, just my opinion. What matters, is not what we think, but what God knows.

 

CT, such as Reformed Baptist though strongly hold to eternal security of the true saint in Christ.

 

Romans 8 pretty much defines eternal security of those who have been really saved, as all of the warning passages address those who merely profess Christ!

 

Jesus himself said the Church would consist of wheats and tares until the very end. Matt. 13:30. It makes perfect sense the Apostles would send warnings to the Church.

 

"Once Saved, Always Saved" and "Faith Alone" doctrines bring us to pacifism. That is why Christianity, in our case Protestant Christianity is loosing supporters. We don't do anything against the perverted Tv programs, banking system, political system or even for our brethren. Torah does not mean "Law" but it means "Instructions" They regulate how we shall treat each other as brethens. Consider it like this: You tell your children to take care of each other since they are brothers/sisters and one of them kills the other one! How would you feel and act?
Or you don't want your children to get married with..." And s/he does?
That is much or less same for God when we don't follow his Instructions.
As for this doctrine, "What will happen if we disobey? Forever Hell? Why and how come? And for ever? Or no judgement at all? What about justice?
What makes someone IFB? I think the main distinction is to see Lord's Supper and Baptism as ordinances as well as being an anti-Calvinist and Hard Preaching.

 

There is one extreme type that does, which holds to the idea that one can apostate and still be saved. But that's not the perseverance of the saints doctrine of security. Scripture tells us to examine our faith to make our calling and election sure. True believers bear certain traits. They bear fruit and the do not fall away from the faith.

Heb. 3:14 We have come to share in Christ, if indeed we hold our original conviction firmly to the very end.

1John 2:19 They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.​

And BTW, this is not why the Church is shrinking in America. That's is the result of losing the minds of our youth to the religion of evolution and millions of years.

 

You have aptly described exactly what the prophecied "falling away" would look like.

Pair what you described in the American culture with:

Escalating Civil Unrest across the globe, including America and Israel.

The worldwide propaganda projected paranoia over Climate Change.

Boldness by the Trump Administration in severing financial aid and consideration for the Palestinians whilst providing increased support for Israel. Which logically magnifies the already supernatural antisemetic hatred currently pulsating throughout the earth.

The rise and rooting in of very strong authoritarian type figures in all the northern nations listed in the prophecied Gog-Magog war.

Israel's external enemies are staged and armed to the teeth. Israel's internal enemies are on the cusp of removing Prime Minister Netanyahu from office and no one currently has emerged to steal the hearts of the Israelites.

Israel is vocally proposing applying sovereignty and Israeli law over the West Bank. Which will add more fuel to this antisemetic phenomenon.

Israel which was always thought to be energy poor, up until roughly ten years ago. Now is known to have enormous oil and gas fields in their territorial waters of the Mediterranean Sea. Which they are developing.

I don't guess you could call it antisemitism, but there is a rapidly growing rift between the majority of Jews in the State of Israel and the much more liberalized American Jewish sector. Anyone remember Cain and Abel? There is very real animosity growing in between them.

 

Not doubt all these are issues, but it's a waste of time, IMO, to fight on multiple fronts if you don't get the origins story correct. Teachers and professors in public schools understand their first priority is to indoctrinate kids with an origins story that supports the rest of their views. They're very smart to do this. Evolution/deep is foundational to all of their reasoning.

Conversely, we'd be smart to teach kids the true story of origins, which is the foundation of the Gospel and several other doctrines of Christianity. I've found this works well.

CMI has produced a short documentary supporting this theory.



Also check out this Creation Magazine LIVE episode.

 

Sounds Armenian. I am curious how you reconcile that Jesus said no one can take us from his hand and election(which is what I assume you mean by predestination) if you believe we can lose are faith.