Americans Mull Obama’s ‘Lipstick on a Pig’ Comment

[Andy T.]

Sarah Palin is a despicable human being and she will never, ever get my vote for any office she runs for.

Wow. If you think that of Palin because of the wolf hunting thing, then what do you think of Obama and his support for women the right to choose murder?

Talk about messed up priorities. Your views are downright wicked.

 

[Revmitchell]

This stupid cliche has been overblown. I just saw a video clip of McCain saying the EXACT SAME CLICHE regarding HILLARY CLINTON and her health plan.....and Obama using the same thing again regarding something of Bush.

It is a cliche.

I agree :thumbs:

 

[KenH]

You need to take that down, KenH. You are rhetorically calling me and the whole country of Canada pigs.

Okay, I withdraw my remark about Sarah Palin and others being, rhetorically, pigs.

Furthermore, I am withdrawing from discussing politics on this board all together. From now on my discussions on this board will be limited to bluegrass music and sports.

I am not mad at anybody but I don't like the way that I am reacting to the discussions of politics in this forum; therefore, the best idea is for me to just leave it alone.

 

[Dragoon68]

In my personal opinion, anyone who supports the aerial shooting of wolves is, rhethorically, a pig - and that includes Sarah Palin.

If Sarah Palin can't handle that criticism, well. that's too bad for her.

Aerial shooting of wolves is an effective process for eliminating them. It's no worse that bug spray for cock roaches.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Aerial shooting of wolves is an effective process for eliminating them. It's no worse that bug spray for cock roaches.

Why edliminate them? They are only a part of nature just as man is ... so should we eliminate man and thus remove the 'animal' that causes the greatest imbalance in nature?

 

[Pastor Larry]

Sarah Palin is a despicable human being and she will never, ever get my vote for any office she runs for.

On what basis? Because she's a mom? A believer? A mom who refused to abort a down's baby? Why exactly is she a despicable human being?

I just saw a video clip of McCain saying the EXACT SAME CLICHE regarding HILLARY CLINTON and her health plan.....and Obama using the same thing again regarding something of Bush.

If you read McCain's quote, he said it about a health care plan, not a person. I am no fan of McCain, but let's at least be clear what he was talking about.

 

[Dragoon68]

Why edliminate them? They are only a part of nature just as man is ... so should we eliminate man and thus remove the 'animal' that causes the greatest imbalance in nature?

Okay then you keep the cock roaches too and live in balance with them as well.

 

[dan e.]

If you read McCain's quote, he said it about a health care plan, not a person. I am no fan of McCain, but let's at least be clear what he was talking about.

...Obama was referring to "change"....not any specific person either.

You guys are reaching. I'm not even saying this because I support Obama...because I'm not voting for him. I'm just saying this as an outsider because you guys look like you are really reaching for anything to use against him. Just be against him without acting like a politician for crying out loud.

THAT IS THE CHANGE I'D LIKE TO SEE.

 

[LadyEagle]

The wolves are not the topic of this thread. Please keep it on topic.

The reason the lipstick comment is so offensive is because it was directed towards Governor Palin because her joke at the Convention was only a few days ago (was not in her scripted speech) and was on everyone's mind. A comment made a long time ago about health care policies was not on anyone's mind. The lipstick comment was received as a very "sexist" dig by someone whose campaign has taken a downward spiral and who is desperate to get back some of the poll numbers he has lost since Sarah Palin came on the scene.

So, what we see here is simple: If the man can't handle a woman in the opposition camp and his poll numbers sliding without getting downright nasty and ugly, he will not be up to the tasks of the Oval Office. He is losing his nicely scripted and Hollywood mask and we are starting to see someone who can't handle pressure and life when things don't go as he expects. He thought he had this election in the bag, as evidenced by the styrofoam columns at his convention.

This sexist remark is from someone whose party prides itself on being so inclusive of women (shunned his chance of having a woman as a running mate) shows just how hypocritical he is and his party is. There is no excuse for it. At all.

 

[annsni]

I haven't heard the quote is context so i don't know and I really don't care.

Sarah Palin is a despicable human being and she will never, ever get my vote for any office she runs for.

According to www.wolfrescue.org , 1000 wolves are trapped or hunted each year in Alaska. One thousand.

According to statistics at Alan Guttmacher Institute, 1.2 million babies were hunted down in 2005. That's MILLION. 12 times the number of children were killed than wolves.

Despicable? I think you have a very twisted sense of values here.

You are going to vote for a man who supports killing that 1.2 million babies over someone who allows 1000 animals to die. THAT is despicable. Seriously twisted despicable.

 

[dan e.]

The wolves are not the topic of this thread. Please keep it on topic.

The reason the lipstick comment is so offensive is because it was directed towards Governor Palin because her joke at the Convention was only a few days ago (was not in her scripted speech) and was on everyone's mind. A comment made a long time ago about health care policies was not on anyone's mind. The lipstick comment was received as a very "sexist" dig by someone whose campaign has taken a downward spiral and who is desperate to get back some of the poll numbers he has lost since Sarah Palin came on the scene.

So, what we see here is simple: If the man can't handle a woman in the opposition camp and his poll numbers sliding without getting downright nasty and ugly, he will not be up to the tasks of the Oval Office. He is losing his nicely scripted and Hollywood mask and we are starting to see someone who can't handle pressure and life when things don't go as he expects. He thought he had this election in the bag, as evidenced by the styrofoam columns at his convention.

This sexist remark is from someone whose party prides itself on being so inclusive of women (shunned his chance of having a woman as a running mate) shows just how hypocritical he is and his party is. There is no excuse for it. At all.

you sound like a politician.

 

[Crabtownboy]

The wolves are not the topic of this thread. Please keep it on topic.

The reason the lipstick comment is so offensive is because it was directed towards Governor Palin because her joke at the Convention was only a few days ago (was not in her scripted speech) and was on everyone's mind. A comment made a long time ago about health care policies was not on anyone's mind. The lipstick comment was received as a very "sexist" dig by someone whose campaign has taken a downward spiral and who is desperate to get back some of the poll numbers he has lost since Sarah Palin came on the scene.

So, what we see here is simple: If the man can't handle a woman in the opposition camp and his poll numbers sliding without getting downright nasty and ugly, he will not be up to the tasks of the Oval Office. He is losing his nicely scripted and Hollywood mask and we are starting to see someone who can't handle pressure and life when things don't go as he expects. He thought he had this election in the bag, as evidenced by the styrofoam columns at his convention.

This sexist remark is from someone whose party prides itself on being so inclusive of women (shunned his chance of having a woman as a running mate) shows just how hypocritical he is and his party is. There is no excuse for it. At all.

Was it offensive to you when McCain used the same phrase about Hillary Clinton?

McCain Used "Lipstick On a Pig" To Describe Hillary Clinton

This was on Wednesday September 10, 2008 at 09:36

 

[Pastor Larry]

...Obama was referring to "change"....not any specific person either.

No, he wasn't. It was in direct response to Palin's comment in her convention speech.

I'm just saying this as an outsider because you guys look like you are really reaching for anything to use against him.

There are a great many reasons to be against him without this. But no matter who one supports, this is clearly out of bounds by any standard.

 

[Pastor Larry]

Was it offensive to you when McCain used the same phrase about Hillary Clinton?

He didn't. The comment that I saw was clearly about a health plan, not about a person. Perhaps you should go back and read a little closer. If you have a comment in mind where McCain was referring to a person, please post it. McCain says plenty of dumb stuff, and certainly seems to be a little short on the fuse, but the comment that has been posted was about Clinton's health care plan, not about Clinton.

 

[dan e.]

No, he wasn't. It was in direct response to Palin's comment in her convention speech.

There are a great many reasons to be against him without this. But no matter who one supports, this is clearly out of bounds by any standard.

of course it is...blah blah, same same same.....it'll be like this again in four years.

 

[LadyEagle]

Great post, Ann.

You guys are reaching.

I'm not a guy. I wear lipstick. I'm no pig. Vote MCCAIN-PALIN.

 

[Crabtownboy]

[/B]Originally Posted by Pastor Larry
No, he wasn't. It was in direct response to Palin's comment in her convention speech. There are a great many reasons to be against him without this. But no matter who one supports, this is clearly out of bounds by any standard

Actually it was not about Palin or her convention speech. See the comment below.

Pastor Larry -- He didn't. The comment that I saw was clearly about a health plan, not about a person. Perhaps you should go back and read a little closer. If you have a comment in mind where McCain was referring to a person, please post it. McCain says plenty of dumb stuff, and certainly seems to be a little short on the fuse, but the comment that has been posted was about Clinton's health care plan, not about Clinton.

Actually I had read it and wondered if anyone else on the board had read the context of McCain's statement. You have. Good for you. You should have read Obama's comment in context.

Now let's put Obama's statement in context. He was not talking about Palin, he was talking about their being 'change agents.' Here is his comment on their credentials for being change agents:

Obama: "The other side, suddenly, they're saying 'we're for change too.' Now think about it, these are the same folks that have been in charge for the last eight years," the Illinois senator said to a crowd of 2,400 people.

"You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig. You can wrap up an old fish in a piece of paper and call it change. It's still going to stink after eight years. We've had enough," he exclaimed to a standing ovation.

So everyone needs to read the quotes in context and stop the politically driven misleading people. Of course this isn't going to happen. Just one of many reasons I do not like politicians.

 

[dan e.]

Great post, Ann.



I'm not a guy. I wear lipstick. I'm no pig. Vote MCCAIN-PALIN.

Sorry...I meant "guys" as in everyone....not necessarily males.

Vote MCCAIN-PALIN? Not if they are reflective of their supporters.

Of course....I'm not sure I'll vote at all if I pay too much attention to the jabs between the supporters on each side.

 

[dan e.]

Actually I had read it and wondered if anyone else on the board had read the context of McCain's statement. You have. Good for you.

Now let's put Obama's statement in context. He was not talking about Palin, he was talking about their being 'change agents.' Here is his comment on their credentials for being change agents:



So everyone needs to read the quotes in context and stop the politically driven misleading people. Of course this isn't going to happen. Just one of many reasons I do not like politicians.

THANK YOU.

However, I still don't think that will satisfy anyone.

 

[Revmitchell]

Actually I had read it and wondered if anyone else on the board had read the context of McCain's statement. You have. Good for you.

Now let's put Obama's statement in context. He was not talking about Palin, he was talking about their being 'change agents.' Here is his comment on their credentials for being change agents:



So everyone needs to read the quotes in context and stop the politically driven misleading people. Of course this isn't going to happen. Just one of many reasons I do not like politicians.

Crabby I have to agree with you on this one. His comment was similar to one I use:

"You can put a dress on a skunk but it still stinks"

Again. Much ado about nothing.