Americans Mull Obama’s ‘Lipstick on a Pig’ Comment

[Pastor Larry]

That's the point Rev, why don't we demand more?

I am all for that, but if you are for demanding more, why are you voting for the worst candidate since Michael Dukakis and maybe even Walter Mondale?

 

[LeBuick]

The comment was out of line. Surely you, with all your bias, can recognize that. Obama talks of wanting to raise the dialogue and turn away from dirty politics, but then goes and does this. .

So why is it out of line when Obama uses the analogy but good politics the 3 times McCain used the same statement?

I'm not biased, I am just not blinded with goddess Palin and realize that if she wants to be the #2 in the free world she will have to show me she can take some hard blows and keep on ticking. This is not an admission what Obama said was about her but saying do we really want a #2 so sensitive we can't speak around her? Putin and others around the world won't pull any punches so maybe she should be showing us how tough she is. That would more say to me that she's ready for the job. I sure don't want a VP crying cuz someone mentioned her lipstick.

Look at all the daily criticism Bush gets, you don't see him crying unfair... This stuff comes with being a public figure and she needs to learn to deal with it or national public life will consume her being. I sure hope America wakes up before it's too late and demand the candidates start telling us their plan to improve this country.

 

[LeBuick]

I am all for that, but if you are for demanding more, why are you voting for the worst candidate since Michael Dukakis and maybe even Walter Mondale?

Because he's the only one telling us about his vision. If McCain would give me some details regarding how he plans to improve this country I may give him my vote.

Ex... McCain says he's a maverick and she's a barracuda and they plan to shake up Washington. He plans to veto every bit of fat that crosses his desk. Now I don't know much about this stuff but it seems every piece of legislation comes with these earmarks attached. Is he saying he won't pass any legislation while he's in office? Of course not. So what exactly does he mean when he says he will shake up Washington. Tell me the details.

Then he says very sincerely, I know you're hurting but I promise I can turn this economy around. Ok, how? Tell us the details of your economic plan. He said he will cut government spending, what is he going to cut. My check or yours? Whose check is he going to cut and by how much? I really want to hear details of his plan.

I'm insulted by a politician who thinks he can win my vote by only saying he's a maverick and going to "shake" something up but he's on top in the polls so I guess I'm in the minority when i demand he tells me more...

Now here is what I mean about Obama is trying and my response to you saying you haven't see it, take a look at his transcript from yesterdays campaign speech. he is telling details of his plans and is the only one telling details. He's not just giving campeign dribble because here he is saying Bush is right... When have you heard that in a campaign?

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/09/obama_education_speech_in_ohio.html

Now, part of the plan also calls for fixing the broken promises of No Child Left Behind. (Cheers, applause.) I -- I've said this before. I believe that the goals of this law were the right ones. We all want high standards. We all want a world-class education. We all want highly qualified teachers in the classroom. Making a promise to educate every child with an excellent teacher is right. Closing the achievement gap that exists in too many cities and rural areas is right. More accountability is right. Higher standards are right.

 

[LadyEagle]

If McCain would give me some details regarding how he plans to improve this country I may give him my vote.

Good, there might be hope, then. Give it time. Wait until the debates. I'm sure we'll all get our ears full then.

FTR, Sarah Palin hasn't "cried" over the lipstick remark as far as I know. Unless you have some inside access the rest of us don't have?

In fact, I haven't heard her make any comment about it. Have you?

 

[JustChristian]

I am all for that, but if you are for demanding more, why are you voting for the worst candidate since Michael Dukakis and maybe even Walter Mondale?

The worst candidate became the worst President, George W. Bush. The only sitting President not to attend his party's convention since LBJ. That made a nice family picture, his parents at the convention and GW cowering in the White House.

 

[LeBuick]

FTR, Sarah Palin hasn't "cried" over the lipstick remark as far as I know. Unless you have some inside access the rest of us don't have?

In fact, I haven't heard her make any comment about it. Have you?

Yep, she brought it up when she introduced McCain today. And as many rock as she throws, she should be ashamed playing innocent victim.

ps... and you're right, my vote is in no way set in stone so I hope the debates really lay out answers to the issues...

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

I am really disappointed at the Republican response to this.

But I have to say it has worked. RTE, the Irish television network, made Palin look like a victim last night because of Obama's comments.

Even if he meant it the way the GOP portrayed it, why is is a compliment to be a pit bull with lipstick and an insult to be a pig with lipstick.

After all, wouldn't a pit bull with lipstick be a, well, I won't annoy American sensitivities here, but in the rest of the English speaking world we use one word for 'female dog.' You have a dog and a __________________ .

Is that really any better than 'pig with lipstick.'

Beside, he was talking of policies, not persons.

 

[Pastor Larry]

So why is it out of line when Obama uses the analogy but good politics the 3 times McCain used the same statement?

Who said it was good politics when McCain used it? I only know of once, and on that occasion he used it of a health care plan. Obama used it of a person, and I can't see how any reasonable person could deny that.

I'm not biased

That's hard to believe, quite frankly.

... if she wants to be the #2 in the free world she will have to show me she can take some hard blows and keep on ticking. This is not an admission what Obama said was about her but saying do we really want a #2 so sensitive we can't speak around her?

I am not sure she is that sensitive about it. I think she probably doesn't care and welcomes the "foot in the mouth" routine. The Republicans are using it as a campaign issue, not because it was a seriously damaging remark but because it a was a dumb thing to say. I am not sure she cares at all.

Look at all the daily criticism Bush gets, you don't see him crying unfair...

He is not running for office looking for political issues either.

Because he's the only one telling us about his vision. If McCain would give me some details regarding how he plans to improve this country I may give him my vote.

Obama is not giving any details though ... not any actual details that are going to work. Politicians don't do that.

Ex... McCain says he's a maverick and she's a barracuda and they plan to shake up Washington. He plans to veto every bit of fat that crosses his desk. Now I don't know much about this stuff but it seems every piece of legislation comes with these earmarks attached. Is he saying he won't pass any legislation while he's in office? Of course not. So what exactly does he mean when he says he will shake up Washington. Tell me the details.

HEre's an example. Obama gives far less details than vetoing pork, but you believe Obama is giving his plan and McCain is not.

Then he says very sincerely, I know you're hurting but I promise I can turn this economy around. Ok, how? Tell us the details of your economic plan. He said he will cut government spending, what is he going to cut. My check or yours? Whose check is he going to cut and by how much? I really want to hear details of his plan.

Obama's not doing this. He says he wants to cut the taxes of 95% of Americans (apparently failing to realize that there are not 95% of Americans who pay taxes, and the bulk of taxes are paid by the top 5%). But how is he going to do that? Why aren't you clamoring for his plan?

I guess I'm in the minority when i demand he tells me more...

I don't think you are in the minority, but I think you have the wrong reason. The majority of Americans are persuaded by the empty rhetoric that is coming from these campaigns. At the moment, you are persuaded by Obama's empty rhetoric.

Now here is what I mean about Obama is trying and my response to you saying you haven't see it, take a look at his transcript from yesterdays campaign speech. he is telling details of his plans and is the only one telling details. He's not just giving campeign dribble because here he is saying Bush is right... When have you heard that in a campaign?

Actually he didn't say that Bush was right. He disagreed directly with Bush with his comments about teaching to the test. But having read the speech quickly, I don't see any plans there except throw more money at the issue (which has two issues: 1) we have no more money and 2) more money has never worked anyway). So you are persuaded by typical big government liberalism who says that the problems in education are about money and if we simply throw more money we will solve it. That is an extremely naive approach to education, and if Obama really believes that, then he can't lead education reform.

But that was no detailed plan.

 

[Pastor Larry]

The worst candidate became the worst President, George W. Bush.

Bush was a very good candidate, and a very poor president (though not the worst, not even in the modern era).

The only sitting President not to attend his party's convention since LBJ. That made a nice family picture, his parents at the convention and GW cowering in the White House.

I didn't see Bush cowering. I think the issue there was the hurricanes that changed the schedule. Had he gone, you guys would have been complaining that he put politics over governing.

 

[Pastor Larry]

I am really disappointed at the Republican response to this.

You are disappointed that politicians act like politicians?

Listen, Obama seems clearly to have intended it as a reference to Palin and that was wrong. It was too close to the exact line she used at the RNC to make a credible case that Obama did not know what he was doing.

I am disappointed in the general public's response that defends this sort of politics and thinks its okay. We should expect more and it starts by pointing this kind of stuff out and making a case out of it until politicians know that we won't accept it any more.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Who said it was good politics when McCain used it? I only know of once, and on that occasion he used it of a health care plan. Obama used it of a person, and I can't see how any reasonable person could deny that.

Obama did not use the comment as a personal attack on Palin. Read his quote in context and you will see he was discussing McCain's plan of change. This is the type of disinformation the Republicians are using and it is unethical.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Obama did not use the comment as a personal attack on Palin. Read his quote in context and you will see he was discussing McCain's plan of change. This is the type of disinformation the Republicians are using and it is unethical.

I agree, but I have been stunned at the amount of space the European media (At least Ireland and the UK) have given this.

They of course are also going for the sensational slant, but these are are first anti-Obama comments I have heard from the Irish media.

 

[Revmitchell]

You are disappointed that politicians act like politicians?

Listen, Obama seems clearly to have intended it as a reference to Palin and that was wrong. It was too close to the exact line she used at the RNC to make a credible case that Obama did not know what he was doing.

I am disappointed in the general public's response that defends this sort of politics and thinks its okay. We should expect more and it starts by pointing this kind of stuff out and making a case out of it until politicians know that we won't accept it any more.

It is a common cliche and nothing more. He may have used it as sort of a joking counter to Palins dog comment but Obamas comment was directed at McCains policies. Let's not loose our good senses here.

 

[Pastor Larry]

If you think Obama did not know exactly what he was doing, you have far greater faith than I do. This guy is a politician who is known for being very slick when he talks. And when he says something like this, it isn't an accident.

I guess my disgust for both candidates certainly gives me a perspective that few here share, but even at that, I think this would be obvious. Perhaps we might borrow Will Rogers line that the problem with common sense is that it isn't so common anymore. This seems to indicate that fairly well.

I don't think the Republicans are troubled by this. I think they welcome these kinds of gaffes as opportunities to highlight their differences.

I will end by simply saying what I said to Ken ... Naivete is not a virtue.

 

[Dragoon68]

I think maybe Obama was referring to Ted Kennedy who does fit the description of a pig with lipstick.

 

[annsni]

The worst candidate became the worst President, George W. Bush. The only sitting President not to attend his party's convention since LBJ. That made a nice family picture, his parents at the convention and GW cowering in the White House.

See? He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. There was a major hurricane coming to Louisiana. If that had ended up as a major disaster and he attended the convention - business as usual - don't you think he would have been criticized? Instead he chose to stay near his office to be able to lead the country during a natural disaster.

That's a really low blow and extremely ignorant.

 

[annsni]

Obama did not use the comment as a personal attack on Palin. Read his quote in context and you will see he was discussing McCain's plan of change. This is the type of disinformation the Republicians are using and it is unethical.

DH and I watched the video again last night. Notice the crowd's response. As soon as he said "You can put lipstick on a pig..." and he paused as people laughed and applauded. There's no question how people took it. Just as the Republicans did.

 

[donnA]

Actually the reference is biblical.
As a jewel of gold in a swine's snout, so is a fair woman which is without discretion. Proverbs 11:22
But did you hear the way the crowd yelled and applauded? They knew who the comment was aimed at.
Obama really messed up here. For someone who was saying things like "a negative attack never fed a hungry child" he is being very hypocritical.

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He didn't mean a single thing biblical.

 

[donnA]

Yep, and we women knew who he meant no matter how much he tries to joke it off and downplay it. What a jerk.

I think I will design a t-shirt that says "I wear lipstick and I'm not a pig. Vote McCain-Palin."

Simpply because shes a woman she gets an insult like this, what a major put down to rest of us women in this country. Now we know what obama thinks of us.
And I want a t shirt too.
I'd like to add that to my signature.

 

[donnA]

I haven't heard the quote is context so i don't know and I really don't care.

Sarah Palin is a despicable human being and she will never, ever get my vote for any office she runs for.

This has got to be the funniest post I have ever seen from you. You are supporting a baby murderer, how much more evil can a person be then to murder babies and approve of it.
You are laughable, and how you can be taken seriously after this I don't know.