An Amillennial Timeline leading up to the end

[robycop3]

But not as Dispensationalists imagine. Jesus fulfilled the 70th week on schedule and the great tribulation happened in AD 70.

And you say you're NOT presenting pret garbage?????????????????????????????????

From the Wikipedia article on partial preterism:

Partial preterism (often referred to as orthodox preterism or classical preterism) may hold that most eschatological prophecies, such as the destruction of Jerusalem, the Antichrist, the Great Tribulation, and the advent of the Day of the Lord as a "judgment-coming" of Christ, were fulfilled either in AD 70[23] or during the persecution of Christians under the Emperor Nero

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nero

Your horse feathers isn't a bit different from the partial prets !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[robycop3]

Have you studied each position? If so, provide examples to stake your claim.

See my last post!

 

[1689Dave]

And you say you're NOT presenting pret garbage?????????????????????????????????

From the Wikipedia article on partial preterism:

Your horse feathers isn't a bit different from the partial prets !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is not Amillennialism.

 

[thomas15]

It's been a while and so I thought I would pop over to see and this is the first thread I landed on. And it reminds me of why I stay away, lack of comprehension skills.

 

[robycop3]

This is not Amillennialism.

But your amillenialist stuff is identical to the pret stuff! Both are garbage.

 

[1689Dave]

But your amillenialist stuff is identical to the pret stuff! Both are garbage.

You have similarities too. But your message is different and so is mine. That's what makes the difference.

 

[robycop3]

You have similarities too. But your message is different and so is mine. That's what makes the difference.

MY message is that BOTH ARE FALSE, no matter whatcha call them.

 

[1689Dave]

MY message is that BOTH ARE FALSE, no matter whatcha call them.

You are the one who cannot back your claims with direct quotes from scripture.

 

[robycop3]

You are the one who cannot back your claims with direct quotes from scripture.

WHAT claims?

I posted the Scriptures indicating the millenuim. Seems YOU have some explaining to do, as to how you can just ignore those passages & say there'll be no "millenium" ! !

 

[1689Dave]

WHAT claims?

I posted the Scriptures indicating the millenuim. Seems YOU have some explaining to do, as to how you can just ignore those passages & say there'll be no "millenium" ! !

You have no direct quotes from the gospels or epistles. Revelation is a book of symbols. The 1000 years of Revelation 20 = the binding of Satan, not the kingdom. Satan attacks the kingdom when the 1000 years come to a close.

 

[robycop3]

You have no direct quotes from the gospels or epistles. Revelation is a book of symbols. The 1000 years of Revelation 20 = the binding of Satan, not the kingdom. Satan attacks the kingdom when the 1000 years come to a close.

Then, the kingdom will have been here for 1K years. How difficult is that to understand? The Scriptures I posted make that fact clear.

 

[1689Dave]

Then, the kingdom will have been here for 1K years. How difficult is that to understand? The Scriptures I posted make that fact clear.

The 1000 years represents the binding of Satan. If it represents the kingdom, the kingdom would not exist at the end of the 1000 years.

 

[Yeshua1]

There is no temporary physical kingdom planned for this world. The kingdom arrived with Jesus at his first coming Luke 11:20. It is spiritual Luke 17:21, and flesh and blood cannot inherit it 1 Corinthians 15:50. It is a kingdom only the born again can see John 3:3. It is a kingdom of faith and cannot be a kingdom of sight 2 Corinthians 5:7 as millennial theories claim Luke 17:20.

The great Tribulation was Jewish only and happened as foretold by Jesus in 70 AD. By destroying the temple and Jerusalem Matthew 24:ff. Jesus told his disciples, “when you see” all of this, spoken in the second person plural, meaning those in his present audience, leave Jerusalem. This they did according to history.

Tribulation is the normal lot of all Christians between the first and Second Advent Acts 14:22.

Nothing remains unfulfilled before Christ returns*. It will be as in Noah’s day, much like today where people marry and are given in marriage Matthew 24:36–39.

On the last day Christ returns followed by the resurrection of the Just John 6:39. Followed by the Rapture 1 Corinthians 15:51–53. Accompanied by the resurrection of the damned and their judgment John 5:29. Accompanied by the destruction of the universe by fire, followed by the creation of the New Heavens and Earth 2 Peter 3:10–13. Where believers of all-time meet and live in the house of the Lord forever Psalm 23:6.

*Many look for the symbols of Revelation to literally appear in the future. But if we look for what the symbols represent, we can see Revelation’s predictions fulfilled time and again throughout history.

You have to deny hoistory and scripture to see AD 70 as being the Great tribulation event, and when was the Antichrist, who did miracles signs and wonders then?

 

[Lodic]

You have to deny hoistory and scripture to see AD 70 as being the Great tribulation event, and when was the Antichrist, who did miracles signs and wonders then?

Or...you would have to deny history and Scripture to not see how the tribulation described in the Olivet Discourse was fulfilled exactly as Jesus described it in the Jewish Wars leading up to the events of AD 70. Are there specific signs and wonders you were referring to from "the Antichrist"? As a side note, I don't believe there is such a person. Do you mean the Beast from the Sea, the Man of Sin, the False Prophet, or someone else?

 

[1689Dave]

You have to deny hoistory and scripture to see AD 70 as being the Great tribulation event, and when was the Antichrist, who did miracles signs and wonders then?

If you look for what the symbols represent you can see Revelations prophecies fulfilled time and again in history. Jesus said they would shortly come to pass. But if we ignore this and stop looking at history and the present, expecting the symbols to appear in the distant future, we miss the entire message.

 

[Yeshua1]

Or...you would have to deny history and Scripture to not see how the tribulation described in the Olivet Discourse was fulfilled exactly as Jesus described it in the Jewish Wars leading up to the events of AD 70. Are there specific signs and wonders you were referring to from "the Antichrist"? As a side note, I don't believe there is such a person. Do you mean the Beast from the Sea, the Man of Sin, the False Prophet, or someone else?

Man of Sin and final Antichrist had not yet arrived when Bible was authored!

 

[Yeshua1]

If you look for what the symbols represent you can see Revelations prophecies fulfilled time and again in history. Jesus said they would shortly come to pass. But if we ignore this and stop looking at history and the present, expecting the symbols to appear in the distant future, we miss the entire message.

I see someone like Nero as a type of the yet to come Antichrist, as some of revelation happened in first century, but much still future to us!

 

[1689Dave]

Man of Sin and final Antichrist had not yet arrived when Bible was authored!

That's why they call it prophecy. It was to shortly come to pass. John says the spirit of Antichrist was already here.

 

[1689Dave]

I see someone like Nero as a type of the yet to come Antichrist, as some of revelation happened in first century, but much still future to us!

Revelation recapitulates according to the oldest commentary found on the book. And we can see the mark of the beast reoccurring throughout history. With more to come. But I believe most has been fulfilled and Jesus could return today.

 

[Yeshua1]

That's why they call it prophecy. It was to shortly come to pass. John says the spirit of Antichrist was already here.

But not yet the final Antichrist!