Featured Anathema and the RCC

I do apologize, for your mama and father too. You can lay everyone's blame on me.

 

That has already been done. Pope John Paul II apologized for a number of incidents including but not limited to: 1. The legal process against Galileo. 2. Involvement in the African slave trade. 3. The killing of other Christians after the Protestant Reformation. 4. The pedophile sex scandals. 5. And for some other 90 other incidents.

Now, when we hear some apologies from your side for the shedding of innocent Catholic blood? For participating in the slave trade? And other instances where non-Catholic Christians raped, tortured and murdered others?

 

No one can predict what, if any mercy God will bestow upon all humans, believers or non-believers at the appointed time.

 

You forgot "Bloody Sunday" in the Bogside area of Derry in Northern Ireland which occurred in just the last century on January 30th, 1972. That was when 28 Catholics were shot down in cold blood by Protestant British soldiers. Nice, huh? Hey, how about all the Catholic priest's that were murdered in England in the 1500's. Do those count? As you said, "By their fruits you shall know them".

 

Is 251 your earliest date? What about Dominus Iesus saying that Baptists, for example, are not really proper churches in 2000? And didn't Benedict say that there is so salvation outside the walls of the Catholic Church? I take Catholicism with a grain of salt, so don't take it personally.

 

I do indeed have heartfelt sorrow for those atrocities as well my apologies.
Actually I share both sides of the issue as i am a first generation Baptist, a former Catholic with of 3/4 Italian and 1/4 Jewish heritage.

HankD

 

Yes they do count.

One of the reasons i gravitated to the Baptist churches after my departure from the Church of Rome is because of the very little bloodshed in their histories.

HankD

 

just say a good Act of Contrition

 

I clicked the link. You totally misrepresent what they say.

They said:

The Catholic Church has no power to damn anyone to hell (that, of course, is each individual's unique prerogative - if you go to hell, you choose to go there), and the term anathema sit does not mean "let him be damned to hell," but "let him be cut off." There is a great difference.

And you quote them out of context as to say the exact opposite. Why not just paste the entire link and let the Catholics speak for themselves instead of always embellishing to mean something they don't mean?


You add words to what they say, just like you do with the bible, adding mistake after mistake.

Which by the way I'm still waiting.....where does it say scripture is the Final an Only Authority? (such a simple request for honest person to provide)

I'm Catholic and you are going to argue by insisting falsehoods about what we believe.

A person puts themselves in hell. We teach that FAITH ALONE is an error for the obvious reason of being devoid of Love.

Now although we know its wrong, you may believe its right,

And if your good conscience tells you that it is right and we are wrong within Catholic teaching you would be OBLIGATED to confront us.
A belief based on peer pressure is unacceptable.

And if You died against the catholic church, Our God isn't a idiot chimp to not know why you made your choices. to whom much is given, much is expected. God is understanding, reasonable even.



You said:

"Thus, if you are a Protestant, Baptist or any other Christian who says your are saved by your faith alone in Jesus Christ, according to the RCC, you are choosing to damn yourself to hell. "



That is not Catholic teaching, and the website didn't say this either. And this is a TYPICAL grammatical ignorance which infects the bible too, adding absolute nonsense that does not exist.

We probably would not be debating if you just learn to read and quit adding make believe verses whenever you feel like.

 

Wait! what is my penance?

If I remember correctly it was 10 Hail Mary's and 10 Our Father's for missing mass.
Of course it varied from priest to priest.

My worst penance:
One time at Saturday confession I told the priest I had skipped mass the week before with two of my cousins (my aunts sent us but wouldn't go themselves) and we spent the money for the poor box on doughnuts.

I had to say a Rosary.

HankD

 

I heard they changed the way you say the rosary! Alas, I am not up to speed on current RC dogma.

 

Hmm!

HankD

 

Yea, we may have to go so far as Lourdes to wash away our sins...

 

Would it take another council to rescind Trent? I myself do not think that Trent will ever be rescinded. It has been almost 500 years so nothing has changed. The Orthodox split in 1054 and there is still a lot of friction there.

 

The article is fine, YOUR claim the article says protestants go to hell is a LIE.

If the case was we believe protestants go to hell for being protestants we would sing it from the rooftops and constantly bombard you with it.

That is not the case at all. YOU LIE, Sir.

You add FAKE things to other peoples writings, just like you do with the bible.

You still haven't answered my question, the devil would avoid it too, because you would have to cough up the truth. rather then lie all the time.