And Now, the Antichrist!

[John of Japan]

My bad.

Jews for Judaism

Oh goodness, Im not aligning my self with anything.

Yes, you are, in your agreement with Anti-Christian sources (antichrists, in other words) that Daniel was not talking about the Messiah, in spite of all Christian evidence to the contrary.

 

[Yeshua1]

Yes, you are, in your agreement with Anti-Christian sources (antichrists, in other words) that Daniel was not talking about the Messiah, in spite of all Christian evidence to the contrary.

Daniel described the coming of lone like the Son of man, and Jesus identified Himself as that Man, so think Daniel mentioned Messiah!

 

[agedman]

Daniel described the coming of lone like the Son of man, and Jesus identified Himself as that Man, so think Daniel mentioned Messiah!

John has gone off to a Christmas concert, so I will take a chance on offering a restatement of what he posted.

Jews by rejecting Jesus Christ as messiah, still look for a Daniel fulfillment. That is the website that was given as a source subscribes.

However, he (John) agrees that Daniel is discussing the Lord Jesus Christ as the Messiah.

Sometimes on these threads, I find it a bit confusing, and more often rely upon you and others to keep me properly informed if I post incorrectly or respond to a post by remarking about a completely different thread!

Ah, old age is great. I just don't remember why.

 

[Covenanter]

I am not denying what you saying here.

and Im not saying it even if it meant anointed one, it doesn't mean Jesus.

In other Hebrew websites It does say the another one here Is Jesus.

The point I was trying to make is they make it, is that Jewish rabbis see this passage as the destruction of Jerusalem not some future antichrist.

I think adding an antichrist in here is a gross interpretation.

Yes, you are, in your agreement with Anti-Christian sources (antichrists, in other words) that Daniel was not talking about the Messiah, in spite of all Christian evidence to the contrary.

My considered understanding concerning Daniel - the 70 weeks prophecy - is that the 69th week takes us to Jesus' baptism & anointing, & the 70th week includes Jesus' 3 1/2 years earthly ministry & the Apostolic ministry until the stoning of Stephen & the conversion & acceptance of Cornelius.

During the 70th week he, Jesus, confirms the covenant with those who received him, & with those who responded to the Apostolic Gospel. He rends the temple veil to show that sacrifice & offering were ended.

The abomination could relate to the Roman armies with pagan emblems or the antichrist in the temple area.

The 70 weeks ended in the mid thirties AD & the prophesied destruction took place in AD 70.

The whole prophecy is history. 70 weeks is 490 years, not 2,500 years & counting.

 

[John of Japan]

Concert done. (I worked security.) Went out to eat with the family. Have Christmas play practice in a few minutes (The Christmas Carol--I'm Charity Solicitor #1).

The abomination could relate to the Roman armies with pagan emblems or the antichrist in the temple area.

I don't deny this possibility, but the thing is, it's the "abomination that causes desolations." Something like that would certainly leave an historical record, and there is no historical record (Josephus or anyone else) of such desolations. Once again, preterists speculate historically, but are left with no proof whatsoever of prophetic fulfillment.

Prophecy is not fulfilled in an historical vacuum. It does not glorify God (what fulfillment is supposed to do) if no one knows it was fulfilled.

Most premil commentators think the A of D is something like what Antiochus IV Epiphanes did, sacrificing unclean animals on the altar of the Temple. That act infuriated the Jews, and is well remembered historically. However, there is no similar act during the AD 70 battle to infuriate the Jews and thus be recorded historically.

 

[John of Japan]

Before this thread is done I have to share what a Greek scholar friend suggested about 666. When the word "Christ" is abbreviated in the manuscripts, it is done with χς (chi & sigma) with a line over it. Interestingly enough, 666 in Greek is χξς, with a bar over the top indicating a number. (Koine Greek did not have numerals, but used letters). which is the same as the abbreviation for Christ, only with the letter xi in the middle. Xi actually looks like a coiled snake, so my friend suggests that the 1st century Greek would see 666, and think of the abbreviation for Christ, only Satan involved--thus, the Antichrist. Thought provoking!

 

[Squire Robertsson]

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[Squire Robertsson]

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