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Andromeda Galaxy
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I don't have a link, but what's been knocked around by YEC and a handful of evolutionists alike is what if the speed of light is not the constant we think it is.
Also, what if God created these galaxies and more distanced apart where they are today and completely giving light to the earth immediately?
KenH
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Spot on!
37818
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Yes, there are more issues then I am asking about.
The speed of light as a constant and the conservation of energy, I believe are related.
37818
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Time travel is to deny absolute truth.
SavedByTheLord
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You have at least 2 unproven assumptions in your reasoning.
You assume that the speed of light is constant along the line of sight toward the Andromeda Galaxy. That is just an unproven theory as the speed of light has never been measured at such distances.
You assume that you know the shape of space. Stretched out space is a distance possibility. In the inflationary big bang, stretched out space is actually part of the theory. That is how they get around several things which prove the big bang false - cosmic background radiation too smooth and that the big bang did not collapse on itself billions of years ago are just 2.
Since the word of God, the Holy Bible, has been proven to be the actual word of God, then the age of the earth and the heavens is only about 6000 years. God Almighty, was actually there and obviously knows how He did it and how long ago it was. This is seen by just reading Genesis 1-2 plus adding up all the ages of the generations given in the Bible, with Christ born around 4 BC (maybe a bit before or after).
I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded. - Isa 45:12
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. - Gen 1:26-27
5 … And the evening and the morning were the first day. 8 … And the evening and the morning were the second day. 13 And the evening and the morning were the third day. 19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day. 23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day. 31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. Gen 1:5,8,13,19,23,31
1 And God spake all these words, saying, 11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. - Exo 20:1,11
17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed. 18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God. - Exo 31:17-18
And the tables were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God, graven upon the tables. - Exo 32:16
And the Lord said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou brakest. - Exo 34:1
4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, 5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? - Matt 19:4-5
6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. 7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; 8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. 9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. - Mark 10:6-9
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: - Rom 1:20
As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began: - Luke 1:70
50 That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation; 51 From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias which perished between the altar and the temple: verily I say unto you, It shall be required of this generation. - Luke11:50-51
37818
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A known constant in a vacuum is it's highest known velocity. Passing through different types matter electromagnetic energy has different velocities at different energies. What evidence do you think you have to the contrary?
SavedByTheLord
Member
Where is the measurement of the speed of light at any distance beyond 20 billion miles?
You are the one with the unproven assumption.
Besides I already proved that the earth and the heavens are only about 6000 years old, so obviously you have 1 or more false assumptions.
By the way, here is an eye opener to the fact that many scientists are deceived by Satan and thus deceiving. Go to google and type "millions of years". You will have to keep looking at results. Here are some of the datings given.
65 million years ago
66 million years
65.5 million years ago
165 million years
252 ... million years ago
146 ... million years ago
518 million years ago
Now in real science, any measured quantity (dating is from a measured quantity) should include + and - numbers too, because measurements are not exact and any derived quantity from all measured items most have the uncertainty carried through. Where are the + and - numbers? Thus these are not even scientific. If one does put a quantity without a plus and minus error range, then the assumed plus and minus is 1/2 the least significant digit quoted. Are these numbers that accurate? They are not. So why the deception? Because it makes it look like they just are so accurate. There are many places where modern "science" uses deception. Why?
Again I do not think anyone is purposefully deceiving. The fact is that many scientists are deceived by Satan and thus deceiving. But as the infallible word of God says
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. - 2 Tim 3:1,13
By the way, when did inflation start?
When did it end?
how much inflation's there?
What is the mass of the mysterious inflation particle?
37818
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I found this link - may not answer any questions asked so far
but it may open many new questions.....
but it may open many new questions.....
37818
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Good question. From what I understand it is "supposed" after the beginning of the "bang."
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37818
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Hebrews 1:2, ". . . Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; . . ." There is no reason to not to understand the Son of God as God the uncaused Cause created the "worlds," the eons of time we measure to be millions and millions light years, etc.
37818
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The dating of what? And then by what means measuring what?
SavedByTheLord
Member
Thanks for admitting that you or anyone on earth knows the speed of light beyond 10 billions miles from earth
Wikipedia!
SavedByTheLord
Member
Those are for certain events in the myth of evolution
37818
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But what was being dated? Sedimentary rocks?
SavedByTheLord
Member
I guess they use circular reasoning
The sedimentary rock is dated by the fossils they contain and the fossils are dated by the sedimentary layers they are in
not scientific at all
37818
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Andromeda Galaxy - Wikipedia
Is interesting. In a dark sky can be seen with one's eyes. Astronomically is not a red shift galaxy but a blue shift. Coming towards us. And we are seeing it in a distance past before our earth's six days in Genesis 1:3-31.
Is interesting. In a dark sky can be seen with one's eyes. Astronomically is not a red shift galaxy but a blue shift. Coming towards us. And we are seeing it in a distance past before our earth's six days in Genesis 1:3-31.
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