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utilyan

utilyan

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Particular said:
I see you cannot tell me what the gospel is. I will wait for you to tell me exactly what the gospel of utilyan actually is.
I can copy and paste other people's thoughts all day long. Do you want me to quote from Calvin's Institutes? That won't be what I say, but it will be what Calvin said 500 years ago.
Now, what is the gospel according to utilyan? Be a dear and tell us in your own words.
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No I want you to quote Jesus Christ for a change, not calvin, not particular, not augustine, not paul, not john, not peter. His words are mine.

9“Pray, then, in this way:
‘Our Father who is in heaven,
Hallowed be Your name.

10‘Your kingdom come.
Your will be done,
On earth as it is in heaven.

11‘Give us this day our daily bread.

12‘And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.

13‘And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from evil. [For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.’]


Open your eyes, The entire Gospel is here, That is what makes it a perfect prayer.

Not a thing missing. Instead of being disgusted by Gospel given by Jesus Christ. You should have claimed it your own.


"That is a prayer
What is the gospel, utilyan?"

So clueless. You spit at the words of Christ as if they were the most useless. Those words are the most useful in the entire bible.

You should repent, OPEN YOUR EYES and read it again.
 
utilyan

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The Lord Jesus will be revealed from celestial places with His mighty messengers in flaming FIRE taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obeyed not His gospel that was preached for a witness unto all nations, from now on they will be punished with eternal destruction in the presence of the Lord JESUS, and from the glory of His power.


He will be glorified in His saints, and will be admired in this Day, the Lord's Day, in all them that believed in His testimony and believed in this Day. He comes with clouds; and every eye shall see Him, and even they of Israel that pierced Him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him, the faithful witness and first begotten of the dead, the prince of the kings of the earth.


Yeah, among His people he has made kings and priests unto God and His Father and they will reign on the earth-Revelation 5:v.10. Hallelujaaaah!!!

Unto Him that did love the people He redeemed and washed them from the sins in His own blood. To Him be Glory and Dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
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Great Job explaining what happens to those who "messengers in flaming FIRE taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obeyed not His gospel ".

The Gospel is great, The testimony must be believed. Those that get saved, do get saved.

You never get around to giving actually giving us the gospel.


Its like saying I have good news , you must believe this good news and if you don't you go to hell. and if you do believe in this good news Jesus will wash you with his blood.

Great so lets hear it.......whats the good news. You tell us its important....but never get around to actually say it.

Give us the gospel. not some empty McGuffin.


I would get so much relief just hearing you say You Love Jesus.
 
Particular

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utilyan said:
No I want you to quote Jesus Christ for a change, not calvin, not particular, not augustine, not paul, not john, not peter. His words are mine.

9“Pray, then, in this way:
‘Our Father who is in heaven,
Hallowed be Your name.

10‘Your kingdom come.
Your will be done,
On earth as it is in heaven.

11‘Give us this day our daily bread.

12‘And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.

13‘And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from evil. [For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.’]


Open your eyes, The entire Gospel is here, That is what makes it a perfect prayer.

Not a thing missing. Instead of being disgusted by Gospel given by Jesus Christ. You should have claimed it your own.


"That is a prayer
What is the gospel, utilyan?"

So clueless. You spit at the words of Christ as if they were the most useless. Those words are the most useful in the entire bible.

You should repent, OPEN YOUR EYES and read it again.
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Still can't tell us the gospel according to utilyan...
 
Particular

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To quote Jesus:

John 10:7-9,11,14-18,25-30 So Jesus again said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. All who came before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not listen to them. I am the door. If anyone enters by me, he will be saved and will go in and out and find pasture. I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me, just as the Father knows me and I know the Father; and I lay down my life for the sheep. And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd. For this reason the Father loves me, because I lay down my life that I may take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from my Father.” Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father’s name bear witness about me, but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me,is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. I and the Father are one.”
 
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utilyan said:
Amen! I quote Jesus.

If you think Jesus' prayer missed something tell us what and Ill prove you wrong. The whole gospel is there.

This is all you vs your vanity.


You are the one who asked me. You wanted to hear the gospel I even give link to the teaching Catechism of the Catholic Church - The summary of the whole Gospel


You can't stand it, You want to go back to YOU telling us what OUR gospel is.
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Jesus prayer isn't the gospel. It is the way that Christians pray, but it isn't the gospel.
The verses I shared are Jesus telling you the gospel.
 
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utilyan said:
Great Job explaining what happens to those who "messengers in flaming FIRE taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obeyed not His gospel ".
The Gospel is great, The testimony must be believed. Those that get saved, do get saved.
You never get around to giving actually giving us the gospel.
Its like saying I have good news , you must believe this good news and if you don't you go to hell. and if you do believe in this good news Jesus will wash you with his blood.
Great so lets hear it.......whats the good news. You tell us its important....but never get around to actually say it.
Give us the gospel. not some empty McGuffin.
I would get so much relief just hearing you say You Love Jesus.
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You are wrong completely, you know not the Word of God, the written God's Truth in His book.

What the Word of God says, JESUS, even Him, is who will manifest himself returning back IN FLAMING FIRE taking vengeance on them that know not God and obeyed not His gospel that was preached for witness unto all nations.

The mighty messengers which are with JESUS in His flammable return are the true Christians, true believers, made kings and priests by Him. Revelation 1:v.6; 5:v.10; 20:v.6

With regards to the false Christians or false believers, they already are, since now, at left hand of the Lord to receive verbatim the previously written sentence according to Matthew 25: v.41: - Depart from me, ye CURSED, into everlasting fire, prepared for the Devil and his messengers. - ministers of Satan - 2Corinthians 11:v.13-15

From now on, says the Word of God, they will be punished with eternal destruction in the presence of the Lord JESUS, and from the glory of His power. He will be glorified in His saints, and will be admired in this Day, the Lord's Day, in all them that believed in His testimony and believed in this Day.



 
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What is clear in this thread is that Roman Catholics refuse to look at the history of their church and acknowledge the co-opting of animist beliefs that their leadership has done over the course of the past 1200 years. History makes it obvious, but this thread shows the great lengths to which Roman Catholics will go to avoid looking at their history of animist activity.
 
utilyan

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Oseas3 said:
You are wrong completely, you know not the Word of God, the written God's Truth in His book.

What the Word of God says, JESUS, even Him, is who will manifest himself returning back IN FLAMING FIRE taking vengeance on them that know not God and obeyed not His gospel that was preached for witness unto all nations.

The mighty messengers which are with JESUS in His flammable return are the true Christians, true believers, made kings and priests by Him. Revelation 1:v.6; 5:v.10; 20:v.6

With regards to the false Christians or false believers, they already are, since now, at left hand of the Lord to receive verbatim the previously written sentence according to Matthew 25: v.41: - Depart from me, ye CURSED, into everlasting fire, prepared for the Devil and his messengers. - ministers of Satan - 2Corinthians 11:v.13-15

From now on, says the Word of God, they will be punished with eternal destruction in the presence of the Lord JESUS, and from the glory of His power. He will be glorified in His saints, and will be admired in this Day, the Lord's Day, in all them that believed in His testimony and believed in this Day.
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"You are wrong completely, you know not the Word of God, the written God's Truth in His book."

At this rate no one knows the Gospel of God since you refuse to say it.


"What the Word of God says, JESUS, even Him, is who will manifest himself returning back IN FLAMING FIRE taking vengeance on them that know not God and obeyed not His gospel that was preached for witness unto all nations."

Ok.....but your only giving us the penalty for not obeying the gospel. Your not actually telling us what IS the gospel.

I can play these word games all day too.

Its like saying those who do not obey the law go to Jail......but you never get around to telling us what is the law, other than it should be followed.


I'm putting this out there, may seem hard to believe, Some demonic oppressed who are so repulsed by the gospel they can't get around to preach it or stand to hear it. Like they can't even fake it.

I'm not saying that is your case, but um....where is the beef? Why don't you share the gospel with us?

Can I hear you say You love Jesus at least?
 
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utilyan said:
Please read your own link.

It would make sense if you accusing Catholics of contacting bunny rabbit gods or something
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I know what animism is. I have watched animists embrace Roman Catholicism because their traditional tribal beliefs merge seamlessly with Roman Catholic teachings regarding praying to the ancestors and gaining spirit energy through ritual. Going on vision quests fit easily with seeing apparitions and burning incense is similar to smudging in calling upon the ancestors.
The co-opting of animism is easy to see in Roman Catholic ceremonies and practices.
 
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I know what animism is. I have watched animists embrace Roman Catholicism because their traditional tribal beliefs merge seamlessly with Roman Catholic teachings regarding praying to the ancestors and gaining spirit energy through ritual. Going on vision quests fit easily with seeing apparitions and burning incense is similar to smudging in calling upon the ancestors.
The co-opting of animism is easy to see in Roman Catholic ceremonies and practices.
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Wait ill get back to you after I burn incense in the name of Saint Fluffy:

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