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Two Wings

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I don't think we can stereotype people that way (in the end, that is what is happening). The decisions for a business is ultimately based on decisions people make.

I have been surprised with the mask thing. I can go into Walmart, Lowes, a chain restaurant, etc. without a mask. But many mom & pop businesses around here require a mask or is only open for carry out.

And, of course, I never have a mask on me and they rarely have masks avaliable. It is aggravating.

Anyway, I use this example to say I am not sure what mom & pop businesses will do. They are excluded from the federal mandate. But based on their size and typical management to employee relationship, I doubt mandates would criss their minds.
Jon you have incessantly (almost like the paragraph is on your “notes” or something, copy/paste) about business’ right to run their business.

you have stated those who OWN their businesses in your objection to efforts preventing the installation of a cv jab mandate by employers.

acknowledging your anecdotal evidence, to which you refer yourself as a customer by the way while i am addressing the impact upon employees, more employees are effected by big biz mandate (big biz who has no sole proprietor) than sole proprietors.
 

JonC

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Jon you have incessantly (almost like the paragraph is on your “notes” or something, copy/paste) about business’ right to run their business.

you have stated those who OWN their businesses in your objection to efforts preventing the installation of a cv jab mandate by employers.

acknowledging your anecdotal evidence, to which you refer yourself as a customer by the way while i am addressing the impact upon employees, more employees are effected by big biz mandate (big biz who has no sole proprietor) than sole proprietors.
I don't have notes to cut and paste. My mind is like a steel trap. :)

Seriously, though, I am consistent on this issue because it is what I believe. I mean myself as an emoyee as well.

I work for a federal contract company and am subject to their decision to mandate the vaccine.

Corporate entities are treated as "persons" when it comes to Constitutional rights (not "citizens" but "persons"). Those in charge of these corporations should maintain the right to make decisions for these corporations.
 

Two Wings

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I don't have notes to cut and paste. My mind is like a steel trap. :)

Seriously, though, I am consistent on this issue because it is what I believe. I mean myself as an emoyee as well.

I work for a federal contract company and am subject to their decision to mandate the vaccine.

Corporate entities are treated as "persons" when it comes to Constitutional rights (not "citizens" but "persons"). Those in charge of these corporations should maintain the right to make decisions for these corporations.
Lol. Steel trap.

ok so the goal post is moving from owned (which means sole proprietor) to any business … and the one voted in charge gets the power of dictator over resources they didnt personally earn and people they dont own.

royer. I think thats included in the definition/application of facism.

our nation was built upon individual sovereignty first. Govt only as necessary to defend that.

There is no legitimate/constitutional power to overturn this aside from individuals conceding it. We have. Sadly you have endorsed this.
 

JonC

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Lol. Steel trap.

ok so the goal post is moving from owned (which means sole proprietor) to any business … and the one voted in charge gets the power of dictator over resources they didnt personally earn and people they dont own.

royer. I think thats included in the definition/application of facism.

our nation was built upon individual sovereignty first. Govt only as necessary to defend that.

There is no legitimate/constitutional power to overturn this aside from individuals conceding it. We have. Sadly you have endorsed this.
I have not moved the goal post....but I probably did not describe my view accurately.

You are mistaking that I enforce any change to the rights currently in place.
 

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Aaron

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Without qualification, we have no God given rights. God is sovereign. It is through Him that we have being, that we exist.
See?

And just so we know how ludicrous it is to assert the endowment of our Creator, he goes on...

Even our very existance is a grace from God, not a right or entitlement.

You elevate man to the place of God. You diminish God's grace, God's blessings, and God's work to human entitlement.

God was not obligated to give you life. God is not obligated to sustain your life.

Your arrogance and sense of entitlement is astounding.

Creation necessarily implies certain endowments. The beasts have some degree of dignity, though they were made a little lower than man, and men are responsible for the manner in which they treat them . . .

Deuteronomy 25:4

Deuteronomy 22:6

Man was made a little lower than the angels and crowned with glory and honor. And so, possession of the land of Canaan could not be transferred while they retained some vestiges of morality. Genesis 15:16 .

Without qualification, men are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights. This is a self-evident truth that you wish to efface to hallow your compromises and vilify men with convictions.

More later... got places to go. People to see.
 

JonC

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See?

And just so we know how ludicrous it is to assert the endowment of our Creator, he goes on...



Creation necessarily implies certain endowments. The beasts have some degree of dignity, though they were made a little lower than man, and men are responsible for the manner in which they treat them . . .

Deuteronomy 25:4

Deuteronomy 22:6

Man was made a little lower than the angels and crowned with glory and honor. And so, possession of the land of Canaan could not be transferred while they retained some vestiges of morality. Genesis 15:16 .

Without qualification, men are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights. This is a self-evident truth that you wish to efface to hallow your compromises and vilify men with convictions.

More later... got places to go. People to see.
I disagree with the idea we are entitled as human beings to what God has provided. God owes men nothing. What we have, including life, is by God's grace.
 
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