Another verse that blows ME out of the water

[Amy.G]

HoG, your docrine is HoGwash

:laugh:
.................

 

[Lacy Evans]

HoG, your docrine is HoGwash

And all the sixth graders said, "Ooooooohhhhhhhhhh!!!!!"

Hey SFIC, if you ever want to challenge me to a "yo-Mama-so-fat" contest, I'll blow your doors off.

 

[standingfirminChrist]

I won't stoop to your level Lacy. In doctrine or nonsense.

 

[2 Timothy2:1-4]

Lacy is this you?



http://www.kingdombaptist.org/kb2/index.cfm?filename=article467.cfm

 

[Lacy Evans]

Lacy is this you?



http://www.kingdombaptist.org/kb2/index.cfm?filename=article467.cfm

Yes I wrote that back in either '95 or '96.


. . .as I wait for the other shoe to drop.

 

[Lacy Evans]

I won't stoop to your level Lacy. In doctrine or nonsense.

That's funny right there, I don't care who ya are.

 

[2 Timothy2:1-4]

Yes I wrote that back in either '95 or '96.


. . .as I wait for the other shoe to drop.

I am not aware of another shoe.

 

[standingfirminChrist]

Yes I wrote that back in either '95 or '96.


. . .as I wait for the other shoe to drop.

Taken from your article on the link provided:

It was as if a tool which we had been using as a hammer had suddenly been realized to have been a wrench all along.

http://www.kingdombaptist.org/kb2/index.cfm?filename=article467.cfm

So, you admit that you are twisting the Word instead of driving the truth home to your congregation.

... wresting the Word of God to their own destruction.

 

[Lacy Evans]

Taken from your article on the link provided:


http://www.kingdombaptist.org/kb2/index.cfm?filename=article467.cfm

So, you admit that you are twisting the Word instead of driving the truth home to your congregation.

Now that actually is funny. There's hope for you yet.

 

[Lacy Evans]

I am not aware of another shoe.

Cool. Sorry, I'm just a little shell shocked.

 

[standingfirminChrist]

Another quote from your thesis:

*Disobedient Christians will be punished by not being allowed to enter the 1000 yr. kingdom and will suffer loss in the "outer darkness" of Hell.

Now that is just plain nonsense and it cannot be backed up with Scripture.

How do I know your statement above cannot be backed up with Scripture?

Christ promises the Child of God never to leave him or forsake him. Christ is light. Darkness has to flee when light is present. A Christian cannot be in darkness at all since Christ is always with him.

Everything in your article after that is poor interpretation of Scripture.

 

[TCGreek]

Another quote from your thesis:



Now that is just plain nonsense and it cannot be backed up with Scripture.

How do I know your statement above cannot be backed up with Scripture?

Christ promises the Child of God never to leave him or forsake him. Christ is light. Darkness has to flee when light is present. A Christian cannot be in darkness at all since Christ is always with him.

1. That's what the proponents want us to somehow believe.

2. They say we are emotionally charged with our use of Scripture and cannot see that in Scripture. Yet, they cannot produce one verse of Scripture to support this doctrine.

3. They continue to engage in word gymnastics and other such thing.

4. The very methodology of formulating this doctrine is itself questionable.

 

[James_Newman]

The bible means whatever you say it means, guys. I personally don't see how going through the same arguments over and over is very productive but we can start over again if you like.

 

[TCGreek]

The bible means whatever you say it means, guys. I personally don't see how going through the same arguments over and over is very productive but we can start over again if you like.

Just produce five verses to substantiate your doctrine.

 

[James_Newman]

Just produce five verses to substantiate your doctrine.

I'll give you fifteen.

Matthew 18:21-35
21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
23 Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants.
24 And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents.
25 But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made.
26 The servant therefore fell down, and worshiped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.
27 Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.
28 But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellow servants, which owed him a hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest.
29 And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.
30 And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt.
31 So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done.
32 Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:
33 Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellow servant, even as I had pity on thee?
34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.
35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.

I have started a thread on interpretting parables in case your not sure what this means.

 

[standingfirminChrist]

Just produce five verses to substantiate your doctrine.

There is not even one verse to substantiate their doctrine... much less five.

 

[TCGreek]

And these verses teach what from a parable teach what?

 

[TCGreek]

How much of this parable should we use and how much should we discard?

 

[standingfirminChrist]

I'll give you fifteen.

Matthew 18:21-35
21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
23 Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants.
24 And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents.
25 But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made.
26 The servant therefore fell down, and worshiped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.
27 Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.
28 But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellow servants, which owed him a hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest.
29 And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.
30 And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt.
31 So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done.
32 Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:
33 Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellow servant, even as I had pity on thee?
34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.
35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.

I have started a thread on interpretting parables in case your not sure what this means.

Those verses are not speaking of one spending 1000 years in outer darkness as you claim.

Lacy must have mailed wrenches to all who will send him their pledges.

 

[James_Newman]

Those verses are not speaking of one spending 1000 years in outer darkness as you claim.

Lacy must have mailed wrenches to all who will send him their pledges.

Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto

oh, I see you caught it.