Answer this question and you will understand OSAS

[DaChaser1]

Moses was given permission from the Lord in the OT to grant divorces due to the hardness of hearts. We Christians live under the NT covenant which states....

"And unto the married I command, [yet] not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from [her] husband: But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to [her] husband: and let not the husband put away [his] wife." (1Cr7:10-11)

Christians are commanded not to depart, but if one does depart, we are not given any liberty to remarry another. We are to remain unmarried or reconcile to your spouse.

By permission Paul states (not the Lord) that if a Christian has found themselves married to an unbeliever and the unbeliever departs, this Christian is not bound to this marriage and therefore could remarry, a believer of course (2Cr6:14).

"But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away. And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him............But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such [cases]: but God hath called us to peace." (1Cr7)

IF the unbeliever departs from the believer, the other party freed remaining freed to remarry, BUT has to be to fellow christian!

IF there is a "biblical divorce" advice is to stay single, BUT God allows the offended party to remarry in the Lord...

IF just a divorce, stay seperated, but IF other remarries, no longer bound by Marriage, can remarry in the Lord...

So Bible allows remarriage, just depends on each situation!

And Paul writing it same as if Jesus said it!

 

[The Biblicist]

IF the unbeliever departs from the believer, the other party freed remaining freed to remarry, BUT has to be to fellow christian!

IF there is a "biblical divorce" advice is to stay single, BUT God allows the offended party to remarry in the Lord...

IF just a divorce, stay seperated, but IF other remarries, no longer bound by Marriage, can remarry in the Lord...

So Bible allows remarriage, just depends on each situation!

And Paul writing it same as if Jesus said it!

Divorce is permitted for any reason just as Moses said in Deuteronomy 24:1-4 and as Christ confirmed in Matthew 19.

However, remarriage is not permitted for every reason but only in regard to death of the spouse or things that called for death in leviticus 19.

 

[DaChaser1]

Divorce is permitted for any reason just as Moses said in Deuteronomy 24:1-4 and as Christ confirmed in Matthew 19.

However, remarriage is not permitted for every reason but only in regard to death of the spouse or things that called for death in leviticus 19.

IF a biblical divorce though, offended party allowed to remarry...

Same way IF unbeliever departs from marriage...

As BOTH situtions cause the covenant between 2 partners to be nullified and disolved by God!

 

[The Biblicist]

IF a biblical divorce though, offended party allowed to remarry...

Same way IF unbeliever departs from marriage...

As BOTH situtions cause the covenant between 2 partners to be nullified and disolved by God!

A Biblical divorce is a divorce for any reason.

A Biblical remarriage is a marriage allowed for only specific reasons stated.

 

[DaChaser1]

A Biblical divorce is a divorce for any reason.

A Biblical remarriage is a marriage allowed for only specific reasons stated.

Wouldn't a biblical divorce be one that allowed the offended party to be remarried though?

 

[Dr. Walter]

Wouldn't a biblical divorce be one that allowed the offended party to be remarried though?

Jews during the days of Christ and the apostles could not enact the death penalty for those violations under Mosaic law which called for it. Death would have released the spouse from that marriage if the law could have been administered. Leviticus 19 covered all types of sexual immoralites that called for the death penalty in many cases. Christ permitted divorce and remarriage for those areas of sexual pornia "fornication."

Moses allowed divorce for any reason and Christ did not repudiate Moses only explained why it was permitted but neither approved of remarriage for those who divorced for just any reason.

 

[savedbymercy]

Denial of God's Faithfulness ! -

To deny Eternal Security is a flat out denial that God will stablish Believers in the Truth ! Its a denial of God's Faithfulness ! 2 Thess 3:3

But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil.

The word stablish is the greek word sterizo and means:

) to make stable, place firmly, set fast, fix

2) to strengthen, make firm

3) to render constant, confirm, one's mind

First lets establish whom Paul is referring to that God will stablish ! 2 Thess 2:13

13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

Paul is writing to those who have been brought to the belief of the Truth by means of the Spirit's sanctification and God's Choice of them !

So Paul is writing to them, that the Lord SHALL make you stable ! What does that mean, to be made stable ? Our English word stable means:

steadfast; not wavering or changeable, as in character or purpose; dependable.


Now back to 2 Thess 3:3, also concerning the PROMISE that the Lord shall stablish them, the word stablish is in the future tense which means the certainty of this occurring in the future. So that eliminates the possibility of them becoming unstable or changing from their steadfastness in the future.

Now this Paul says is because of God's Faithfulness, not theirs. So God's faithfulness is at stake if they should loose their steadfastness in the Lord..And those of you who say its possible, you are speaking against the Lord and His Faithfulness !

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

How are believers kept unto salvation?

a) by the power of God

b) by the power of self

c) by the power of God plus self

Here is a passage of scripture to help you with your answer; 1 Peter chp 1......

(1) "Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,"

(2) "Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied."

(3) "Blessed [be] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, "

(4) "To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,"

(5) "Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time"

GE:

Steaver, you have consoled my soul with God's Word. God bless you and keep you.

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

To deny Eternal Security is a flat out denial that God will stablish Believers in the Truth ! Its a denial of God's Faithfulness ! 2 Thess 3:3

But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil.

The word stablish is the greek word sterizo and means:

) to make stable, place firmly, set fast, fix

2) to strengthen, make firm

3) to render constant, confirm, one's mind

First lets establish whom Paul is referring to that God will stablish ! 2 Thess 2:13

13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

Paul is writing to those who have been brought to the belief of the Truth by means of the Spirit's sanctification and God's Choice of them !

So Paul is writing to them, that the Lord SHALL make you stable ! What does that mean, to be made stable ? Our English word stable means:

steadfast; not wavering or changeable, as in character or purpose; dependable.


Now back to 2 Thess 3:3, also concerning the PROMISE that the Lord shall stablish them, the word stablish is in the future tense which means the certainty of this occurring in the future. So that eliminates the possibility of them becoming unstable or changing from their steadfastness in the future.

Now this Paul says is because of God's Faithfulness, not theirs. So God's faithfulness is at stake if they should loose their steadfastness in the Lord..And those of you who say its possible, you are speaking against the Lord and His Faithfulness !

GE:

This faithful LORD GOD of us even said He has a sign of and for this "His Faithfulness". Can God's Faithfulness never become unstable or changing, but his sign of "His Faithfulness" can ... in fact, must?!

The very Church that believes the LORD GOD'S stable and unchangeable Faithfulness, scorns and spurns "The Sabbath of the LORD GOD", yea, WON'T EVEN HAVE IT MENTIONED in the same breath as God's Faithfulness.

Now that, gets me under.

 

[Jon-Marc]

We are saved and kept ONLY by the power of God.