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Anti-Trump backlash fuels a Democratic sweep in Virginia and elections across the country

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Revmitchell said:
This election say nothing about Trump. It has always been liberal. Nothing new here to see.
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Hilarious. Denial in its fullest.

Northam got 4% more of the Democratic vote than Hillary Clinton did just one year ago, and in bad weather conditions in an off-year election. Meanwhile Gillespie got 1% more Republican votes than Trump did.

Northam got more total votes than any governor candidate in Virginia history.

The Democrats were expecting to pick up perhaps seven seats in the state legislature, instead they've already won fourteen and could win twenty when all the votes are counted.

A transgendered candidate beat a long standing Republican incumbent in the legislature.

The exit polls show people voted Democratic out of anger against Trump.

But, yeah, not about Trump at all. Sheesh!
 
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A pivotal swing state just lost in a clean sweep. Nothing to see here? Whatever you say Mitch.
 
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KenH said:
"Voters came out in droves. They braved the rain and the cold to send a message to President Trump. The results across the country represent nothing less than a stinging repudiation of Trump on the first anniversary of his election."

Analysis | The Daily 202: Anti-Trump backlash fuels a Democratic sweep in Virginia and elections across the country
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BOTH states were won by Hilliary, BOTH very liberal in voting, so no real news here! Now if Utah and Texas turned on trump for the Dems, would have real news!
 
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Use of Time said:
A pivotal swing state just lost in a clean sweep. Nothing to see here? Whatever you say Mitch.
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That always voted Dem anyways? FAR more impressive that trump took Wisconsin, Mi, and Pennsylvania, hard core liberal dem states!
 
777

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It's a swing state on the state level (now) but not on the national level for some years now. How can a candidate who never campaigned with Trump, told Trump not to come there even for a GOP-friendly photo op, lost an election earlier to another superior candidate, never quoted Trump and dodged any question about him, lose the race and then the MSM claims that loss is a repudiation of Donald Trump? Most of those federal Congressional wins in special elections, five I think, weren't considered to be endorsements of Trump, but some gubernatorial race in a state bordering the Beltway is a sign of trouble to come?
 
InTheLight

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777 said:
It's a swing state on the state level (now) but not on the national level for some years now. How can a candidate who never campaigned with Trump, told Trump not to come there even for a GOP-friendly photo op, lost an election earlier to another superior candidate, never quoted Trump and dodged any question about him, lose the race and then the MSM claims that loss is a repudiation of Donald Trump?
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Exit polls.

Half of Virginia voters said Trump was a reason for their vote — with twice as many saying they were voting to oppose Trump (34 percent) as to support him (17 percent). Northam won 97 percent of voters for whom opposing Trump was a factor.

Exit polls: This was a message to Trump
 
InTheLight

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Calminian said:
Meh. Blue state voting blue. Yawn.
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Guess what? In the mid term elections of 2018 the Electoral College is not going to matter. Blue state/red state not going to matter much. It's going to be voter turnout vs. approval ratings.
 
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Well, yeah, the midterms will help see who's right here but the House races are close to a mirror of the EC, gerrymandered and all. Senate and gubernatorial races are what you say.

Okay, Clinton/Trump, last year:

Popular vote 1,981,473 1,769,443
Percentage 49.73% 44.41%

now, not official results but yesterday, Northam/Gillepse:

Popular vote 1,404,877 1,172,840
Percentage 53.9% 45.0%

now in 2016, there were a couple of third-partiers that got around six percent of the vote (including Egg). The 2016/2017 maps look almost identical:

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and:

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what Trump backlash? Get that democrat in Alabama to beat Roy Moore, that would convince me. But this was just a neverTrumper running in a state when neverTrumpers and Democrats dominate now, tells me the Democrats are the stronger of the two there.
 
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777 said:
Well, yeah, the midterms will help see who's right here but the House races are close to a mirror of the EC, gerrymandered and all. Senate and gubernatorial races are what you say.

Okay, Clinton/Trump, last year:

Popular vote 1,981,473 1,769,443
Percentage 49.73% 44.41%

now, not official results but yesterday, Northam/Gillepse:

Popular vote 1,404,877 1,172,840
Percentage 53.9% 45.0%

now in 2016, there were a couple of third-partiers that got around six percent of the vote (including Egg). The 2016/2017 maps look almost identical:

355px-Virginia_Presidential_Election_Results_2016.svg.png



and:

300px-Virginia_gubernatorial_election_results_by_county_2017.svg.png


what Trump backlash? Get that democrat in Alabama to beat Roy Moore, that would convince me. But this was just a neverTrumper running in a state when neverTrumpers and Democrats dominate now, tells me the Democrats are the stronger of the two there.
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Yes, and the Republican ran away from Trump, so it was more a repudiation of him as a candidate!
When Alabama elects the Dem as Senator, that would be more anti trump!
 
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Revmitchell said:
This election say nothing about Trump.
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At first, the passengers of the Titanic didn't believe their ship was sinking either. People who knew the ship, knew the situation was very bad. The Republican Party is in severe trouble for their nomination and support of Trump, and they can't make any progress with him as President, yet they are afraid of standing up to him. They are headed toward complete failure.

I'm not sure the Republican Party will survive Trump as a force in politics. I expect them to go the way of the Whigs.

It has always been liberal.
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They sure have elected a lot of Republicans for the state to be so "liberal."

Nothing new here to see.
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I've walked this earth for more than five decades, and every time someone claimed that there was "nothing to see," there was definitely something to see. It is simply an attempt to deflect attention from a grim reality.

You probably don't recognize this, but your denials communicate the exact opposite of what you intend.
 
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Baptist Believer said:
At first, the passengers of the Titanic didn't believe their ship was sinking either. People who knew the ship, knew the situation was very bad. The Republican Party is in severe trouble for their nomination and support of Trump, and they can't make any progress with him as President, yet they are afraid of standing up to him. They are headed toward complete failure.

I'm not sure the Republican Party will survive Trump as a force in politics. I expect them to go the way of the Whigs.


They sure have elected a lot of Republicans for the state to be so "liberal."


I've walked this earth for more than five decades, and every time someone claimed that there was "nothing to see," there was definitely something to see. It is simply an attempt to deflect attention from a grim reality.

You probably don't recognize this, but your denials communicate the exact opposite of what you intend.
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Umm, everyone of the polls for the Pres election was wrong. Everyone of the polls for this election was wrong. No one thought Trump could win. Everyone thought Shrillary would win. Every time a solid conservative campaigns on solid hard core conservative principles they win. When Republicans try to out lib liberals they lose.
 
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The polls predicted Clinton would win the popular vote by about 2% and she did so. The Electoral College is what determines who becomes president. The polls don't account for the Electoral College very well at all as only a few thousand votes(of well over a hundred million nationwide) in a few states can decide who wins the Electoral College, as was the case in 2016.
 
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In the U.S. presidential election, the final poll of polls compiled by Real Clear Politics predicted that Hillary Clinton would win 46.8 percent of the popular vote and Donald Trump 43.6 percent. In the end, Clinton won 47.7 percent and her rival won 47.5 percent. This small majority she had in the popular vote was reversed in the electoral college and she won 228 delegates to Trump’s 279 (figures exclude New Hampshire, Arizona and Michigan). So the last-minute polls were accurate in predicting Clinton’s vote but were off by 4 percent in the case of the Trump vote. What went wrong?


Here's why the polls got the U.S. elections results so wrong
 
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