Sad isn’t it that a race that has been so persecuted would create their own racial superiority platform? May God forgive them.
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Antisemitism in Britain
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Maybe Labour's Attlee did a bad job? We know that Labour's Bevin did. UK had Israel from WW I until Israel became free in 1948 and were recognized by Truman. If Corbyn could win, I doubt if UK could easily handle the Israeli military.
The enemy in the Middle East is Iran, although Turkey probably should be thrown out of NATO.
The Germans started this current mess in Europe but I don't see that Germany has any remorse. I am waiting for the results of the Swedish election in September. Don't go to Malmo. Mexico has an election in July and a communist has a twenty-point lead so Mexico may collapse under communism.
Jews are very leftist and that is why they join parties with Islamists. The USA has three areas of concern: North Korea, Iran, and Latin America. I can't see the GOP showing any respect for European notions about Gaza, and I wonder how many of you are aligned with Iran?
I don't think many here carry a torch for Iran and I don't think the rights and wrongs of the Attlee government post-1945 have any bearing or relevance on the actions of the Israeli state in the 21st century.
Labour laid the foundation, and everyone knows that Labour Bevin disobeyed the law. The UK does not need to side with the Palestinians. We had that deadbeat Abbas in our Johns Hopkins Hospital--we had to pay the bill--and he never even thanked us. I think that we should not allow him in the White House ever again but the Democrats will. The Palestinians murdered RFK--I have had enough of them. I think that they spend most of their time in the South of France.
There is a tremendous outcry against "antisemitism"
BUT
what is"semitism" ?
Is it that "Jews" are a special class/race/religion/caste that should be specially honoured above all other people groups?
Seems to me like racism. Rather like, but going beyond the concept of white supremacy or any other supremacy.
But are European Jews Semitic or Ahkenazi or hybrid? Can they make a valid claim to descent from Abraham? Neither John nor Jesus had any regard for their claims of honour as Abraham's seed.
Why should "we" be interested in the Middle East? Why should Iran be considered "our" enemy?
"Our" total destruction of civilisation in Iraq & Libya based on a lying "dodgy dossier" indicates that "we" are the rogue states, not the hitherto relatively stable Muslim countries.
In what way is Iran threatening our peace & stability?
AND
in what way has our crusade against the Islamic countries caused the refugee problem - by destroying cities & infrastructure?
To what extent is the Semitic state influencing "our" military actions in the Middle East? And why was there no proper inquiry into the 9/11 attack on America?
What on earth does any of that mean?! 'The Palestinians'? Who are they? Are they the same as 'The Poles' who murdered President McKinley?
It's often the case that those who are persecuted can become the persecutors: think of the Puritans in New England -v- the Native Americans, Dutch Calvinists in South Africa, Scottish Covenanters in the Ulster Plantation. It's the same as school bullies typically having been bullied themselves, or the abused going on to become the abusers ie: human nature.
In reality, the case here is that those who were the first persecutors, then became the persecuted for centuries, have again become the persecutors, ESPECIALLY if you include the subtle persecutions from radical leftwing politics where 'these original persecutors' are now amassed.
The first persecutors
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The problem with all that is that the British Labour Party is also radical leftwing. You have to have a scorecard to tell the players. The Labour Party had Bevin and now they have Corbyn.
Some parts are. Others are Blairite (after Tony Bliar...you know, the guy who helped give us the Iraq War under false pretences).
Why the obsession with Ernest Bevin?
The problem with all that is that we are divided by language & terminology. Bevin was around 70 years ago, & times have changed. I don't remember him. My father - Lloyd George - was a supporter of Churchill, as was my mother, Doris Day.
To quote from WIKI
What his attitude was to Semitism I have no idea.
One of my political & musical heroes is Paul Robeson, who was a supporter of fellow negroes, Jews & working class people regardless of religion & colour.
Ah, Nye Bevan: a big, angry Welshman who basically said to the doctors, "Now look here, here's some money, now go and make poor people well". And thus was born the NHS
Depends where they are from..... Personally I like the Sephardim but most European Jews are survivors of Poland & Russia IE the Pale, Germany almost decimated them. But I do take your meaning....take a look at Ethiopian Jews & then contrast that to the Ashkenazim
Many Ashkenazis are descendants of the Khazars, a Turkic tribe which converted to Judaism in the 7th century ie: nothing to do with OT Israel.
So you became a communist over the talentless Robeson?
Some Jews are left wing, as you can see in this country, also. Some Jews were collaborators. Labour is left wing and has a history of anti-Semitism dating back to at least 1944 when they used military force against Jews contrary to their own international agreement.
Er...i think you'll find that Winston Churchill, a Conservative, was our Prime Minister in 1944. But please don't let the facts bother you.
And what is this 'international agreement' of the Labour Party of which you speak? If you mean the Balfour Declaration, that was drawn up by a Conservative former Prime Minister who was serving in a predominantly Liberal coalition government (nothing to do with the Labour Party). But, since we are talking about it, let's look at the wording or the Declaration:
"His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."
100 years on, we are still waiting for the part I've italicized to be honoured...
And what is this 'international agreement' of the Labour Party of which you speak? If you mean the Balfour Declaration, that was drawn up by a Conservative former Prime Minister who was serving in a predominantly Liberal coalition government (nothing to do with the Labour Party). But, since we are talking about it, let's look at the wording or the Declaration:
"His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."
100 years on, we are still waiting for the part I've italicized to be honoured...
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