Any Non-Baptist Christians here?

[37818]

Does repented of my sins and confessed Jesus as my Lord and. Savior sound better to you?

Both "repented of my sins" and "confessed Jesus as my Lord" are somethings you are saying you did toward salvation. Jesus indeed taught repentance, Mark 1:15. But what Bible verse teaches we need to repent of one's sins? Romans 10:9 we have the promise of salvation for confessing Jesus as Lord and believing in one's heart God raise Jesus from the dead.

Btw, I didn't attend one of your 'Easy Believism' churches.

What do you mean by 'Easy Believism?'

What I would really like to understand from you, back then, what would you have explained to someone how to know for sure about going to heaven?

 

[Salty]

Then you shouldn't have said "Christian", as several groups on that list are not Christian.

and there are Baptists who are not Christians!

 

[alexander284]

Sounds like nothing as changed, since they also banned others I know, like BobRyan, OneBaptism and others (baptists on this board are actually afraid of Seventh-day Adventists and the truth they share, even having a moratorium on Seventh-day Adventists signing up altogether).

If true, I am truly saddened to hear that.

 

[alexander284]

I am a Catholic Christian (former Baptist)

I'm glad you decided to identify your beliefs with us, but saddened at some of the replies you've received.

 

[Hollow Man]

The latter half is true. "Catholicism is at odds with Christianity", but the first half is untrue, as there are such persons who are Christian and yet presently Catholic, living up to the light that they have.

Nope. If they were Christians, they would have left the Catholic cult.

 

[Hollow Man]

If anyone goes to hell we aim to get them out. If the entire universe hates you, they have to get past me first.

How? By giving them a false gospel that denies the sufficiency of Christ? By telling them they can expiate their own sins in the mythical land of Purgatory? By telling them to pray to dead people?

 

[Hollow Man]

I have never said (nor does the Catholic Church teach) you can work your way to eternal life. As a Baptist, I repented of my sins and trusted. the shed blood of Jesus for salvation. Catholism is NOT at odds with that.

Actually, that you work your way to eternal life is a key tenet of Catholicism. That's why the Council of Trent calls anyone who believes you can have eternal life without working for it "anathema" and why CCC 1475 says you must expiate your own sins in Purgatory.

So . . . was I saved when I gave my heart to Jesus as a Baptist, and lost my salvation when I became a Catholic? Interesting!

Where does the Bible say anything about "giving your heart to Jesus"?

Who says you were saved before you joined the Catholic cult? That you walked away from Christ to join that damnable cult would be evidence you were NOT saved.​

 

[Hollow Man]

and there are Baptists who are not Christians!

Oh, believe me. I've seen that right here on Baptistboard.

However, the fact remains that Baptists fall within the bounds of orthodoxy, while Catholicism does not.

 

[Walter]

Both "repented of my sins" and "confessed Jesus as my Lord" are somethings you are saying you did toward salvation. Jesus indeed taught repentance, Mark 1:15. But what Bible verse teaches we need to repent of one's sins? Romans 10:9 we have the promise of salvation for confessing Jesus as Lord and believing in one's heart God raise Jesus from the dead.

What do you mean by 'Easy Believism?'

Easy-believism teaches conversion through faith alone. It denies that repentance and surrender to Christ are components of salvation.

 

[Walpole]

Easy-believism teaches conversion through faith alone. It denies that repentance and surrender to Christ are components of salvation.

This is the Protestant cheap grace and it is a false gospel. This Protestant cheap grace renders the Kingdom a marketplace where they stand idly by instead of the Vineyard for laborers.

 

[Adonia]

Oh, believe me. I've seen that right here on Baptistboard.

However, the fact remains that Baptists fall within the bounds of orthodoxy, while Catholicism does not.

No, you have it wrong. The traditional definition of Christian orthodoxy as it has been known through the ages has been a belief in the sacraments, all seven of them. Baptists on the other hand reject them, they are so far out there they are actually renegades from the original renegade Martin Luther.

 

[Adonia]

Actually, that you work your way to eternal life is a key tenet of Catholicism. That's why the Council of Trent calls anyone who believes you can have eternal life without working for it "anathema" and why CCC 1475 says you must expiate your own sins in Purgatory.

Where does the Bible say anything about "giving your heart to Jesus"?

Who says you were saved before you joined the Catholic cult? That you walked away from Christ to join that damnable cult would be evidence you were NOT saved.​

We all participate in our own salvation. It starts with faith in the saving grace of Jesus Christ and as the scriptures clearly say over and over again in the end we will be judged on what we have done in this life and that truth cannot be denied.

 

[Adonia]

This is the Protestant cheap grace and it is a false gospel. This Protestant cheap grace renders the Kingdom a marketplace where they stand idly by instead of the Vineyard for laborers.

Yes, Baptists and others of their ilk take the easy way out. "I'm saved, I'm saved" and that's all they think they have to do. Each believer can have their own scriptural interpretation and woe to the person who says they are wrong in it.

All one has to do is look at their worship service where the pulpit is the focus of everything, quite unlike how Jesus commands that the focus of worship should be which is his great sacrifice on the cross - the sacrificial altar.

 

[Walpole]

Yes, Baptists and others of their ilk take the easy way out. "I'm saved, I'm saved" and that's all they think they have to do. Each believer can have their own scriptural interpretation and woe to the person who says they are wrong in it.

All one has to do is look at their worship service where the pulpit is the focus of everything, quite unlike how Jesus commands that the focus of worship should be his great sacrifice on the cross - the altar.

Exactly.

Is the Vineyard (the Kingdom of God), for the laborers or for those who do not labor? Is it even possible to be in the Vineyard without being a laborer?

---> https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...-2&version=KJV


Who does the will of the Father in the Vineyard, the one who works or the one who doesn't?

---> https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...32&version=ESV


Proteestant cheap grace is a false gospel.

 

[Van]

For the purpose of this thread, I'm seeking input from Roman Catholics, Seventh Day Adventists, Episcopal, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, Presbyterian Church (USA), American Baptist, Churches of Christ, United Methodist Church, Anglican, Church of God, Presbyterian Church in America, Assemblies of God, Lutheran-Missouri Synod, Church of the Nazarene, United Church of Christ, Church of God in Christ, Unitarian Universalist, National Baptist Convention, African Methodist Episcopal Church, Latter Day Saints, etc.

Are you saying both the American Baptists and the National Baptist Convention are not Baptists? I was baptized more than 60 years ago in an American Baptist Church. If this is true, which of their beliefs do not fit under the Baptist Doctrinal Umbrella.

 

[Salty]

Are you saying both the American Baptists and the National Baptist Convention are not Baptists? I was baptized more than 60 years ago in an American Baptist Church. If this is true, which of their beliefs do not fit under the Baptist Doctrinal Umbrella.

Maybe not their official belief. But last year I was interim pastor of an ABC church. Some of the folks wanted to know why I gave an invitation. They also had no desire to reach children. They were more interested in selling food (at a parade) then having a prayer tent. Hmmmmmmmmm

 

[Van]

Maybe not their official belief. But last year I was interim pastor of an ABC church. Some of the folks wanted to know why I gave an invitation. They also had no desire to reach children. They were more interested in selling food (at a parade) then having a prayer tent. Hmmmmmmmmm

Thanks Salty, if a grouping of autonomous churches contains some with their candlestick removed, that does not condemn every church within the group, and certainly not every believer in every church. Historically the ABC were abolitionists, separating from the advocates of slavery. I believe we will see some of them in heaven.

 

[Yeshua1]

Sounds like nothing as changed, since they also banned others I know, like BobRyan, OneBaptism and others (baptists on this board are actually afraid of Seventh-day Adventists and the truth they share, even having a moratorium on Seventh-day Adventists signing up altogether).

We are not afraid of Sda, just do not wish to see their false doctrines and teachings have a way to be seen!

 

[Yeshua1]

Catholic. Love is the highest priory. Every one on earth is in my Family.

You can only love God as much as the one you hate most, can only care for God as the one you care least.

We get heat from all sides the demons hate us, the angels hate us.

Worst of the bunch and master of evil. We'll take that title its a good reminder the only problem between me and God is me not anyone else.

If anyone goes to hell we aim to get them out. If the entire universe hates you, they have to get past me first.

You need to start holding to the true Gospel, as since trent Rome has not!

 

[Yeshua1]

I'm glad you decided to identify your beliefs with us, but saddened at some of the replies you've received.

Its nothing personal, its just that both Rome and Sda teach another false Gospel!