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Any see current middle east events fulfilling any Prophesy ?

kyredneck

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That's completely false. Less than 7% of the land we call Israel was purchased by Jewish immigrants by 1948. All of what is called Israel now was merely taken by war or by expulsion of the Palestinians.

Absolutely true. No different than what occurred here in America with the native Americans, EXCEPT, the biological genome of the Palestinians is identical to the Sephardic Jews, i.e., the Palestinians were the true 'left behind' from the expulsions of 70-130 AD. The Jews since 1948 have systematically committed genocide against their own people.
 

Aaron

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No promises were made to Melchizedek.
You're not considering how great this man was...priest of the Most High God. Paul cited him to show that there was a greater one than Abraham in the world. An uncircumcised one...greater even than circumcised Abraham in covenant with God...and a greater priesthood than that of the Jews. One that preceeds, superceeds, and abides even now by the operation of Christ, the King of the Jews.

Melchizedek is not the holder of any covenant. He has no lineage. He blessed Abraham. He is a type of Christ.
Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God;
That's right. Christ is priest by the power of an endless life. Aaron and his sons were made priests by the lesser and temporal power of a carnal commandment.

But more than that, unlike Aaron and his sons, Christ was also made priest with an oath. The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.

Now the thing is, the priesthood being changed, a change in the law is necessitated, negating Leviticus. And more importantly, that negation is eternal. The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent....

The temple is kaput. The founation stones on that hill are serving the best purpose they can right now...supporting that heathen shrine.
The priesthood is kaput. We are a royal priesthood.
The offerings are kaput. We offer spiritual sacrifices.

In short the whole reason they were brought into the land is no more.

Which doesn’t make God a liar and take bake His promise.
Not at all. His promise was fulfilled.

Galatians 3:16 - Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

John 8:56 - Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

Romans 11:7 - What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it...

Hebrews 11:10, 16 - For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. ... a better country, that is, an heavenly:


Sinai is not in question.
It most certainly is. The sign of the Abrahamic Covenant was circumcision. But circumcision means one is under the law. There is no getting away from that. You are making a distinction that Paul did not make. And you do not have a better understanding than he did.

1 Corinthians 7:19 - Circumcision is nothing...but the keeping of the commandments of God.

Romans KJV - For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law:


It is the promises to Abraham that Moses recognizes and does not deliver that you are trying to cancel.
Which promise was unfulfilled?

Galatians 3:17
And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
The promise is the Abrahamic covenant. The Law, Mosaic Covenant cannot make void the promises made to Abraham. The new covenant does not void the promises made to Abraham either.
There is no place in scripture that says that the deed has been canceled. It is only your anti-Jewish feelings that state this.
LOL. Okay. Well, if that's so, you don't get Jerusalem. That's just not part of the deal for the reasons stated here.

Paul didn’t cancel it. He warned people like you about your own high mindedness.

(Rom. 11) Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graff them in again. For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
You've just ceded to my argument by appealing to Romans 11. God has not cast off His people, evident by the fact that there is an election of grace who are receiving Christ and being baptized. In other words, they have received what Israel has been seeking, but Israel hasn't, because they haven't sought it in faith.

But, how are any grafted in? By the same faith in the same promises. And we are all in that one body. And there is ever only one body, and one faith, and one baptism.
 

Ben1445

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You're not considering how great this man was...priest of the Most High God. Paul cited him to show that there was a greater one than Abraham in the world. An uncircumcised one...greater even than circumcised Abraham in covenant with God...and a greater priesthood than that of the Jews. One that preceeds, superceeds, and abides even now by the operation of Christ, the King of the Jews.
You are not considering that as a type of Christ, Melchizedek means nothing to the promise made to Abraham. The Law had nothing to do with Abraham.
As A faithful High Priest, Jesus is more interested in keeping promises than breaking them. You keep putting Abraham under the Levites. Even the Jews didn’t do that. Abraham has nothing to do with the Law because it didn’t exist.
That's right. Christ is priest by the power of an endless life. Aaron and his sons were made priests by the lesser and temporal power of a carnal commandment.
You keep ignoring that Abraham has nothing to do with Aaron and his sons or the Levites or the Law. He could not have followed the Law because it was not given. Abraham doesn’t lose something because of laws that come later. He’s literally grandfathered in. Galatians says that the promises are not cancelled but you clearly don’t believe that.
But more than that, unlike Aaron and his sons, Christ was also made priest with an oath. The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.
The priests didn’t inherit land. The fact that Christ is the High Priest means nothing to the ownership of land.
Now the thing is, the priesthood being changed, a change in the law is necessitated, negating Leviticus. And more importantly, that negation is eternal. The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent....
Again, Abraham was never under the law.
The temple is kaput. The founation stones on that hill are serving the best purpose they can right now...supporting that heathen shrine.
The priesthood is kaput. We are a royal priesthood.
The offerings are kaput. We offer spiritual sacrifices.
Abraham had no temple, no levitical priesthood.
In short the whole reason they were brought into the land is no more.
Genesis 13:15
For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever.

I don’t see the temple clause, or the expiration date.
Not at all. His promise was fulfilled.
Can I have the date that forever was fulfilled?

Galatians 3:16 - Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

John 8:56 - Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

Romans 11:7 - What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it...

Hebrews 11:10, 16 - For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. ... a better country, that is, an heavenly:



It most certainly is. The sign of the Abrahamic Covenant was circumcision. But circumcision means one is under the law. There is no getting away from that. You are making a distinction that Paul did not make. And you do not have a better understanding than he did.

1 Corinthians 7:19 - Circumcision is nothing...but the keeping of the commandments of God.
Which should tell you that it has nothing to do with promises made about physical property to physical people before it was Law.
Romans KJV - For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law:



Which promise was unfulfilled?


LOL. Okay. Well, if that's so, you don't get Jerusalem. That's just not part of the deal for the reasons stated here.
You might just as well say that he doesn’t get Jerusalem because he blinked when he looked over that area.
You've just ceded to my argument by appealing to Romans 11. God has not cast off His people, evident by the fact that there is an election of grace who are receiving Christ and being baptized. In other words, they have received what Israel has been seeking, but Israel hasn't, because they haven't sought it in faith.
I haven’t ceded to you. I am telling you that you have missed the point in Rom. 11
But, how are any grafted in? By the same faith in the same promises. And we are all in that one body. And there is ever only one body, and one faith, and one baptism.


So, when are you moving in. You have obviously claimed your right to the land. When are you going to end your wilderness wandering and go possess the land?
 

Ben1445

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And how is this return evident?
You, being willfully blind to the existence of it and denying it when you see it, will not ever see it evident without a willingness to see it.
Prophecy fulfilled and prophecy that has not been fulfilled shows clearly enough that it is and will continue to happen.
I am not going to submit names and addresses in evidence. Given your apparent preference of October 7th terrorists, I wouldn’t trust you with that kind of information anyway.
 

Aaron

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So, when are you moving in. You have obviously claimed your right to the land. When are you going to end your wilderness wandering and go possess the land?
You want to see the Promised Land? Look at the dirt of which Christ's body was made.

Heck. Look at the dirt I'm made of.

Better yet. Look in the mirror.
 

Ben1445

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You want to see the Promised Land? Look at the dirt of which Christ's body was made.

Heck. Look at the dirt I'm made of.

Better yet. Look in the mirror.
Why a new earth with a new Jerusalem?
It would save God a lot of time and effort if He just gave us all eternal mirrors to fulfill prophecy. (Intense sarcasm)
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Well I guess Joseph, Job, Jesus, Paul, etc. who all said the same thing were wrong in your view. Also what's the deal with you using foul language lately?
Marine, construction worker in NY, …habits die hard. You don’t stop those habits immediately….not swearing, not fights, not desire, lust, drunkenness etc. I’ve been on my own since 12 yo. That is the teaching of the world! Spent sooo many years in the dark….Im a scum bag. To survive I lied, cheated, killed, stold, conned my way thru life and I’m actually good at it. I was becoming an effective criminal. Was even assigned the task of running strip joint places in Manhattan and all that money was good. A path to a very comfortable life…if they didn’t throw me in prison. But then there was Jesus who interfered in my life and saved me…so I let go of my sin and my shame. Now I’m covered by grace, how amazing. I’m still a work in progress and I’m street but I take care of my wife with cancer, I help rebuild churches, I help others by telling them my testimony and bringing them the Word. So, if my anger still brings out the worst in me, well I’m not perfect.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Well I guess Joseph, Job, Jesus, Paul, etc. who all said the same thing were wrong in your view. Also what's the deal with you using foul language lately?
You guess huh! Ever served in a combat post? Do you have PTST from …oh forget it. Only Christs return can make those experiences right and that’s probably the plan…but what a sad and painful thing for humans to have to experience.:(
 

Oseas3

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Any see current middle east events fulfilling any Prophesy ?​

Is this just happenstance or is any significant events being established now?
Be sure that since ancient time the ETERNAL punishment had a specific and pre-determined time to begin, I MUST tell it has already begun, the question is that we all MUST know that from now on the punishments against the nations will NEVER END, it will NEVER STOP, but NEVER, it will be for ever and ever. -->
Be prepared or else get ready. -> Jeremiah 25:31 - A noise shall come even to the ends of the earth; for the Lord hath a controversy with the NATIONS (what kind of controversy or dispute - Will be 1 Corinthians 15:24-28 and 51-55 combined with Revelation 11:15-18 ???), He will plead with all flesh; He will give them that are wicked to the sword, saith the Lord.

2Peter 3:7-> But the heavens->(the first and second heavens, -> the 3rd will be still established from now on) and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto FIRE against the Day of Judgment -> (this Day arrived, the seventh and last Day or seventh and last millennium), and perdition of ungodly men.

JESUS said: Matthew 24:35 -> Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Jeremiah 25:32-> Thus saith the Lord of hosts, Behold, evil shall go forth from NATION to NATION, and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth.

Jeremiah 30:23-24--> 23 Behold, the whirlwind of the Lord goeth forth with fury(Romans 2:6-11, take a look), a continuing whirlwind: it shall fall with pain upon the head of the wicked.
24 The fierce anger of the Lord shall not return, until he hath done it, and until he have performed the intents of his heart: in the latter days ye shall consider it. --> Be prepared o else get ready.

Jeremiah 25:33 ->
And the slain of the Lord shall be at that Day (this Day arrived) from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground.-->Revelation 19:19-21, take a look.

Malachi 4:1-3
1 For, behold, the Day cometh (this Day arrived) that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the Day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the Day that I shall do this(this Day arrived), saith the Lord of hosts.

Be prepared opr else get ready

John 17:15-17 - this will fulfill LITERALY from now on. Our Lord JESUS said to the Father:
15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the Evil.
16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy Word is truth.

May our Lord GOD bless us and keep us, and give us His protection
AMEN
 

Oseas3

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The Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39 Gog-Magog Alliance of nations war is staged. God can and will pull the trigger on that at the time of His choosing. Could be anytime, even today.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^TO ALL BROTHERS IN CHRIST ^^^^^^^^^^^^
Gog and Magog are the two terrible and satanic Beasts of Revelation 13:1-18 prepared from the beginning (in an embryo) to manifest with a full body in this current time, a complete body for each Beast, one Gentile MAN Beast and the other a Jewish MAN Beast. These two MAN Beasts will have material and spiritual dominion over the nations and will govern them as world leaders. I believe that these two Beasts, one Gentile and the other Jewish, in the exercise of their material and spiritual world dominion, will from now on represent the rider of the black horse, the rider of the pale horse,->this is Satan himself incarnate manifesting himself as the messiah, and hell follows him, his name is Death, and he will dominate in partnership with the Gentile Beast in what concerns to kill with sword(a satanic mouth),and with hunger,and with death, and with the beasts(government or rulers of nations) of the earth.

But wait, there is one important detail yet to be announced: The riderhorse of the red horse is already operating at an accelerated pace in his activities-> Revelation 6:3-4, as follows:
3 And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.->(a demonic MOUTH, to speak atrocities and foment them throughout the world). Be prepared or else get ready.

Now, in the transition from this demonic and current kingdom, to the Kingdom of GOD that will be established from now on in literal fulfillment of 1Corinthians 15:24-28 and 51-55 combined with Revelation 11:15-18, the Gentile MAN Beast(Revelation 13:1-9) will have a more demonic transformation and posture, from a false and deceptive religious Christian posture to a more aggressive, demonic, violent posture (Revelation 13:5-9, take a look). The Jewish MAN Beast has not yet manifested himself, but he will manifest soon, at first as a lamb (Revelation 13:11), a false lamb that speaks like a dragon, Satan himself (Revelation 12:9), in truth he is the MAN of sin, son of perdition (John 8:44 combined with 2Thessalonians 2:3-4), a false messiah (John 5:43-47).

Revelation 6:5-8 reveal:->
5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and it a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.
8 And I looked, and held a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
Be prepared, or else, get ready.


Similarity between passing by the Red Sea and by the Red Dragon

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - PUT THIS IN YOUR MIND ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - THE RED SEA AND THE RED DRAGON ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I believe you know that the Hebrews had to cross the Red Sea, and walk through a desert, walk until they got to the Promised Land after 40 years of...
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Oseas3

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I see this:

And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving
Matthew 24:
There are interesting events in the sermon of JESUS described in Matthew 24

1st EVENT-FIRST JESUS PROPHESIED: DESTRUCTION OF THE TEMPLE - DEN OF THIEVES
1-
When our Lord came out from the Temple, the disciples came to Him for to shew Him the buildings of the Temple. (Certainty they were exultant and excited and talked with the Lord of the greatness and beauty of the Temple )
2-
And JESUS said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

See, the testimony of JESUS is the Spirit of prophecy. What JESUS said above was LITERALLY fulfilled in the year 70AD, around 40 years after His ascension. There should never again be built another similar man-made Temple, or the old Temple-the den of the thieves- never came to be rebuilt as it had been before.
Notice that concerning the destruction of the Temple", it has nothing to do with Mount Olives; Mount Olives has to do only with the destruction of the World of Devil in the current time, now, even now, from now on. FIRST, the nation of Israel, included the Temple, the den of thieves, were destroyed. And nation of Israel was destroyed from 70 to 1948, 1878 years of severe punishments and curses -Deuteronomy 28:15-68- and the Temple -the den of thieves- there should never again be built another. The father of the Jews-John 8:44- will be cast down into the bottomless pit, that he should deceive the nations no more-Revelation 20:1-4.

- 2nd EVENT- DESTRUCTION OF THE DEVIL's WORLD & SIGNS OF JESUS's COMING

3 And JESUS sat upon the mount of Olives. The disciples came unto Him privately, saying: Tell us, when shall these things be?
1- What shall be the sign of thy coming?
2- And of the END of the world?
4 And Jesus answered and gave a LIST of signs unto them, saying the things that AT FIRST will happen:

(1) Take heed that no man deceive you;
(2) For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ (John 5:43-48); and shall deceive many;
(3) And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the END is not yet;
(4) For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom;
(5) and there shall be famines;
(6) and pestilences;
(7) and earthquakes, in divers places;
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
JESUS continued warning: All these are the beginning of sorrows . At first, all these things MUST come to pass, but the END is not yet.<--> In fact, it is a PRE-TRIBULATIONAL PERIOD.
By the way, when the END will be? It's easy to know by the Word of GOD: -->1Corinthians 15:24-28.

JESUS continued prophesying and warning His people -His Church- about the signs of His coming,
and of the END of the WORLD of Devil even from now on, even in this current time, saying what shall happen with His people in prolongation of this current period of sorrows:
(1) they shall deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you;
(2) and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake;
(3) then shall many be offended;
(4) and shall betray one another;
(5) and shall hate one another.
(6) many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
(7) And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

The promise of our Lord JESUS
He that shall endure unto the END of the world, the same shall be saved
, the gospel of the Kingdom of GOD-Revelation 11:15- shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all NATIONS;

Then shall the END come; So, when ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place-JERUSALEM-, (whoso readeth, let him understand: )
then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.-
(This terrible event of the great tribulation will happen because Michael will stand up, and then Michael shall cause the great tribulation in whole Earth: Example: Genesis 19:12-14 combined with Daniel 12:1-, and except these days (these current days) should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

So, if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ-John 5:43-47-, or there, BELIEVE NOT, for there shall arise false Christs(John 5:43-47 combined with Revelation 13:11, take a look), and false prophets(false preachers of the Word of GOD) , and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. (PERILOUS TIMES-Be careful or else get ready)

JESUS warned:
Behold, I have told you before - Matthew 24:25.

The Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing, understand? Be careful or else get ready.
 

Aaron

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Why a new earth with a new Jerusalem?
Why indeed. One thing that we do know, because we've been explicitly told, is that New Jerusalem is the church. So what are we being shown in Revelation?

It would save God a lot of time and effort if He just gave us all eternal mirrors to fulfill prophecy. (Intense sarcasm)
Christ's work is done. Haven't you read that He said on the Cross, "It is finished," ?
 

Aaron

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You, being willfully blind to the existence of it and denying it when you see it, will not ever see it evident without a willingness to see it.
Prophecy fulfilled and prophecy that has not been fulfilled shows clearly enough that it is and will continue to happen.
I am not going to submit names and addresses in evidence. Given your apparent preference of October 7th terrorists, I wouldn’t trust you with that kind of information anyway.
LOL You think I'm asking for names and addresses? :Roflmao

I'll go ahead and answer, Israel returning to the Lord does not look like Judaism. It looks like this:

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Ben1445

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Why indeed. One thing that we do know, because we've been explicitly told, is that New Jerusalem is the church. So what are we being shown in Revelation?


Christ's work is done. Haven't you read that He said on the Cross, "It is finished," ?
so everything that hasn’t been done yet is finished? Or are you talking about something that Jesus wasn’t?
 
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