It only took the execution of one Jew , the Lamb of God to do that!… and it changed the world.
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It only took the execution of one Jew , the Lamb of God to do that!… and it changed the world.
That's completely false. Less than 7% of the land we call Israel was purchased by Jewish immigrants by 1948. All of what is called Israel now was merely taken by war or by expulsion of the Palestinians.
You're not considering how great this man was...priest of the Most High God. Paul cited him to show that there was a greater one than Abraham in the world. An uncircumcised one...greater even than circumcised Abraham in covenant with God...and a greater priesthood than that of the Jews. One that preceeds, superceeds, and abides even now by the operation of Christ, the King of the Jews.No promises were made to Melchizedek.
That's right. Christ is priest by the power of an endless life. Aaron and his sons were made priests by the lesser and temporal power of a carnal commandment.Melchizedek is not the holder of any covenant. He has no lineage. He blessed Abraham. He is a type of Christ.
Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God;
Not at all. His promise was fulfilled.Which doesn’t make God a liar and take bake His promise.
It most certainly is. The sign of the Abrahamic Covenant was circumcision. But circumcision means one is under the law. There is no getting away from that. You are making a distinction that Paul did not make. And you do not have a better understanding than he did.Sinai is not in question.
Which promise was unfulfilled?It is the promises to Abraham that Moses recognizes and does not deliver that you are trying to cancel.
LOL. Okay. Well, if that's so, you don't get Jerusalem. That's just not part of the deal for the reasons stated here.Galatians 3:17
And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
The promise is the Abrahamic covenant. The Law, Mosaic Covenant cannot make void the promises made to Abraham. The new covenant does not void the promises made to Abraham either.
There is no place in scripture that says that the deed has been canceled. It is only your anti-Jewish feelings that state this.
You've just ceded to my argument by appealing to Romans 11. God has not cast off His people, evident by the fact that there is an election of grace who are receiving Christ and being baptized. In other words, they have received what Israel has been seeking, but Israel hasn't, because they haven't sought it in faith.Paul didn’t cancel it. He warned people like you about your own high mindedness.
(Rom. 11) Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graff them in again. For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
Has that happened? Have they returned unto the Lord? Are they obeying His voice?
And how is this return evident?Some are. I know some personally.
You are not considering that as a type of Christ, Melchizedek means nothing to the promise made to Abraham. The Law had nothing to do with Abraham.You're not considering how great this man was...priest of the Most High God. Paul cited him to show that there was a greater one than Abraham in the world. An uncircumcised one...greater even than circumcised Abraham in covenant with God...and a greater priesthood than that of the Jews. One that preceeds, superceeds, and abides even now by the operation of Christ, the King of the Jews.
You keep ignoring that Abraham has nothing to do with Aaron and his sons or the Levites or the Law. He could not have followed the Law because it was not given. Abraham doesn’t lose something because of laws that come later. He’s literally grandfathered in. Galatians says that the promises are not cancelled but you clearly don’t believe that.That's right. Christ is priest by the power of an endless life. Aaron and his sons were made priests by the lesser and temporal power of a carnal commandment.
The priests didn’t inherit land. The fact that Christ is the High Priest means nothing to the ownership of land.But more than that, unlike Aaron and his sons, Christ was also made priest with an oath. The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.
Again, Abraham was never under the law.Now the thing is, the priesthood being changed, a change in the law is necessitated, negating Leviticus. And more importantly, that negation is eternal. The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent....
Abraham had no temple, no levitical priesthood.The temple is kaput. The founation stones on that hill are serving the best purpose they can right now...supporting that heathen shrine.
The priesthood is kaput. We are a royal priesthood.
The offerings are kaput. We offer spiritual sacrifices.
Genesis 13:15In short the whole reason they were brought into the land is no more.
Can I have the date that forever was fulfilled?Not at all. His promise was fulfilled.
Which should tell you that it has nothing to do with promises made about physical property to physical people before it was Law.Galatians 3:16 - Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
John 8:56 - Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
Romans 11:7 - What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it...
Hebrews 11:10, 16 - For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. ... a better country, that is, an heavenly:
It most certainly is. The sign of the Abrahamic Covenant was circumcision. But circumcision means one is under the law. There is no getting away from that. You are making a distinction that Paul did not make. And you do not have a better understanding than he did.
1 Corinthians 7:19 - Circumcision is nothing...but the keeping of the commandments of God.
You might just as well say that he doesn’t get Jerusalem because he blinked when he looked over that area.Romans KJV - For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law:
Which promise was unfulfilled?
LOL. Okay. Well, if that's so, you don't get Jerusalem. That's just not part of the deal for the reasons stated here.
I haven’t ceded to you. I am telling you that you have missed the point in Rom. 11You've just ceded to my argument by appealing to Romans 11. God has not cast off His people, evident by the fact that there is an election of grace who are receiving Christ and being baptized. In other words, they have received what Israel has been seeking, but Israel hasn't, because they haven't sought it in faith.
But, how are any grafted in? By the same faith in the same promises. And we are all in that one body. And there is ever only one body, and one faith, and one baptism.
You, being willfully blind to the existence of it and denying it when you see it, will not ever see it evident without a willingness to see it.And how is this return evident?
Well I guess Joseph, Job, Jesus, Paul, etc. who all said the same thing were wrong in your view. Also what's the deal with you using foul language lately?That’s a hell of a price to pay then
You want to see the Promised Land? Look at the dirt of which Christ's body was made.So, when are you moving in. You have obviously claimed your right to the land. When are you going to end your wilderness wandering and go possess the land?
Why a new earth with a new Jerusalem?You want to see the Promised Land? Look at the dirt of which Christ's body was made.
Heck. Look at the dirt I'm made of.
Better yet. Look in the mirror.
Marine, construction worker in NY, …habits die hard. You don’t stop those habits immediately….not swearing, not fights, not desire, lust, drunkenness etc. I’ve been on my own since 12 yo. That is the teaching of the world! Spent sooo many years in the dark….Im a scum bag. To survive I lied, cheated, killed, stold, conned my way thru life and I’m actually good at it. I was becoming an effective criminal. Was even assigned the task of running strip joint places in Manhattan and all that money was good. A path to a very comfortable life…if they didn’t throw me in prison. But then there was Jesus who interfered in my life and saved me…so I let go of my sin and my shame. Now I’m covered by grace, how amazing. I’m still a work in progress and I’m street but I take care of my wife with cancer, I help rebuild churches, I help others by telling them my testimony and bringing them the Word. So, if my anger still brings out the worst in me, well I’m not perfect.Well I guess Joseph, Job, Jesus, Paul, etc. who all said the same thing were wrong in your view. Also what's the deal with you using foul language lately?
AmenYou want to see the Promised Land? Look at the dirt of which Christ's body was made.
Heck. Look at the dirt I'm made of.
Better yet. Look in the mirror.
Wise arseWhy a new earth with a new Jerusalem?
It would save God a lot of time and effort if He just gave us all eternal mirrors to fulfill prophecy. (Intense sarcasm)
You guess huh! Ever served in a combat post? Do you have PTST from …oh forget it. Only Christs return can make those experiences right and that’s probably the plan…but what a sad and painful thing for humans to have to experience.Well I guess Joseph, Job, Jesus, Paul, etc. who all said the same thing were wrong in your view. Also what's the deal with you using foul language lately?
Be sure that since ancient time the ETERNAL punishment had a specific and pre-determined time to begin, I MUST tell it has already begun, the question is that we all MUST know that from now on the punishments against the nations will NEVER END, it will NEVER STOP, but NEVER, it will be for ever and ever. -->Any see current middle east events fulfilling any Prophesy ?
Is this just happenstance or is any significant events being established now?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^TO ALL BROTHERS IN CHRIST ^^^^^^^^^^^^The Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39 Gog-Magog Alliance of nations war is staged. God can and will pull the trigger on that at the time of His choosing. Could be anytime, even today.
Matthew 24:I see this:
And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving
Why indeed. One thing that we do know, because we've been explicitly told, is that New Jerusalem is the church. So what are we being shown in Revelation?Why a new earth with a new Jerusalem?
Christ's work is done. Haven't you read that He said on the Cross, "It is finished," ?It would save God a lot of time and effort if He just gave us all eternal mirrors to fulfill prophecy. (Intense sarcasm)
LOL You think I'm asking for names and addresses?You, being willfully blind to the existence of it and denying it when you see it, will not ever see it evident without a willingness to see it.
Prophecy fulfilled and prophecy that has not been fulfilled shows clearly enough that it is and will continue to happen.
I am not going to submit names and addresses in evidence. Given your apparent preference of October 7th terrorists, I wouldn’t trust you with that kind of information anyway.
so everything that hasn’t been done yet is finished? Or are you talking about something that Jesus wasn’t?Why indeed. One thing that we do know, because we've been explicitly told, is that New Jerusalem is the church. So what are we being shown in Revelation?
Christ's work is done. Haven't you read that He said on the Cross, "It is finished," ?