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Anyone here observe Lent, etc?

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Ran the Man

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In fact, the Triune God wrote the Bible. Exodus 20:1; Leviticus 1:1 etc., John 8:51; Hebrews 10:5; John 16:13-15; Hebrews 10:15 etc.
I know those verses. I also know Baptist doctrine on the scripture. We Baptists believe the bible is the INSPIRED word of God. Not the words of God.
But after the Calvinist fundamentalist witch hunt/takeover, you guys went Chrislam and started calling it the words of God.
 

robycop3

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What rites are you talking about? I asked specifically what parts of Lent are not found within regular worship in Scripture. So far, neither you nor @Reformed has shown any.

The answer to your Q is that NONE of them are. While Jesus spent 40 days in the wilderness, He didn't command US to do likewise. He didn't tell us to smear ashes on our faces on a certain day. While He commanded foot-washing (maundy) at the "last Supper", He didn't specify any day, nor how often.

Some people insist we should emulate Jesus in those things. Well, if they're gonna do that, they might as well have people beat the skin off their backs with a cat-o-nine tails, wear a crown of thorns, & be nailed to a cross by their hands & feet.
 

Reformed1689

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You keep missing the point. You are not tired of that yet? I said Lent is not found in scripture, not its parts. If the whole is not there, why are you looking for its crumbs? I put the onus on you to show me the positive command in scripture to observe Lent. Where is it?

Again, you are dodging the question. 1. What do you think Lent actually is? 2. What parts of Lent are not found in Scripture. They are in alignment with LBCF2.

The answer to your Q is that NONE of them are. While Jesus spent 40 days in the wilderness, He didn't command US to do likewise. He didn't tell us to smear ashes on our faces on a certain day. While He commanded foot-washing (maundy) at the "last Supper", He didn't specify any day, nor how often.

Some people insist we should emulate Jesus in those things. Well, if they're gonna do that, they might as well have people beat the skin off their backs with a cat-o-nine tails, wear a crown of thorns, & be nailed to a cross by their hands & feet.

Fasting is definitely in Scripture and LBCF. Sack cloth and ashes definitely are in Scripture as well. Nope didn't specify dates or how often but it is commanded. You are really grasping straws here.
 

Reformed

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David,

Lent is a Roman Catholic religious observance that serves to prepare the individual for the events of Holy Week. It is a part of the Roman Catholic liturgical calendar. Lent includes acts of acetitism whereby the individual denies themselves certain enjoyments in order to focus on reptenance from sin, personal piety and good works.

Lent has no warrant in scripture. None. Ninguna. Aucun. Geen. Some of the components of Lent can be found in scripture. For instance, repentance from sin and godliness (piety) are to be present in the Christian life, but Lent itself is a Roman Catholic contrivance.

To suggest that Lent is found in the 1689 LBCF strains credulity. Do some research on the signatories of the 1689 LBCF and their views on Roman Catholicism, the Pope, and Roman Catholic holy days. I will not do the research for you. Something tells me you are not really interested in anything else than an argument, so I will not be waiting for the results of your research.

You would be better off to just say that you disagree with scripture-alone being the sole authority for all matters of faith and practice and move on to other things.



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Jerome

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Oops, did the precious 'Synod of Dort' not get the memo about the naughtiness of churches observing Christmas & Easter? If only our board's resident arbiters of Reformed-ness had been there to set them straight. LOL.

books.google.com/books?id=Ik1JAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA7
The Synod of Dort, A. D. 1618...decreed as follows:
"Art. 67.—Besides the Sabbath day, the Churches shall likewise observe Christmas, Easter..."
 
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HankD

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Ah hah! A true rebel, I like that! (LOL). I will say at the outset here, and in all seriousness, that I do indeed respect your belief's concerning your Christian faith journey.

And who came up with those sacraments, those holy things designed to help us live a holy and pleasing life for God? Why no one other than God Himself!

Yes, that is true and the Catholic Church teaches that. But you also have your clergy, an ordained person who exists to lead you in your walk with God and you call him your "Pastor". We also have our ordained person and call him a "Priest". They are both shepherds of their flock here on earth, no?

Well, we Catholics and our Eastern Orthodox brothers beg to differ with you here and we do not run afoul of the scriptures you cited earlier.

I'm not seeing any unnecessary baggage. There is a lot of liberty in the Catholic faith tradition and other than the core beliefs that must be adhered to, the individual is free to not believe or participate in many other things that exist within it's walls.
So one day it will all be clear. Soon is my hope.
 

HankD

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But we Baptists don't do sola scriptura, no matter what we say. We use commentaries, Sunday school literature, and books from the local Christian bookstore.
Some Baptists use Calvin's Institutes like it's Watchtower literature.
Sola scriptura? Zondervan would go bankrupt.
True - see one of the eight the Baptist distinctives

"Biblical Authority

The Bible is the final authority in all matters of belief and practice because the Bible is inspired by God and bears the absolute authority of God Himself. Whatever the Bible affirms, Baptists accept as true. No human opinion or decree of any church group can override the Bible. Even creeds and confessions of faith, which attempt to articulate the theology of Scripture, do not carry Scripture’s inherent authority.
2 Timothy 3:15–17; 1 Thessalonians 2:13; 2 Peter 1:20, 21"

The "final authority" is different than "sola scriptura".

Baptist DistinctivesGARBC
 

Martin Marprelate

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I know those verses. I also know Baptist doctrine on the scripture. We Baptists believe the bible is the INSPIRED word of God. Not the words of God.
But after the Calvinist fundamentalist witch hunt/takeover, you guys went Chrislam and started calling it the words of God.
:Rolleyes All Scripture is 'God-breathed.'
 
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