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AOC Visits an X-Rated Burlesque Show

church mouse guy

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True but it was a political problem for him since he was against slavery. His wife died young and he remarried. What does all this have to do with problems in Chicago as you initially stated?

"One of the worst Democrats was Stephen A. Douglas and yet the left does nothing to dismantle his putrid legacy in Chicago."

First you say that he did not own slaves and then you say that he did own slaves and then you ask why the big memorials to a slaveholder are a problem for the Democrats in Chicago. Did you ever play connect the dots? The greatest Democrat ever to come out of Illinois was a slaveholder and the Democrats are proud of him--you yourself noted all of the wonderful things that he did.
 

Alcott

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True but it was a political problem for him since he was against slavery. His wife died young and he remarried. What does all this have to do with problems in Chicago as you initially stated?

"One of the worst Democrats was Stephen A. Douglas and yet the left does nothing to dismantle his putrid legacy in Chicago."

You persistently said Douglas did not own slaves, and you were proved wrong. Now you want to revert back to what your questioner was talking about in the first place. You're some honest debater, ain't you?

BTW you never answered the question about MLK and a holiday with government and bank closings named for an "immoral man."
 

church mouse guy

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I think that Google has suppressed the part about Douglas being a slaveholder. Snopes recently tried to downplay the fact that Kamala Harris' Father says that his side of the family are descendants of slaveowners.
 

FollowTheWay

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You persistently said Douglas did not own slaves, and you were proved wrong. Now you want to revert back to what your questioner was talking about in the first place. You're some honest debater, ain't you?

BTW you never answered the question about MLK and a holiday with government and bank closings named for an "immoral man."
"All have sinned and come short of the glory of God." I don't defend any sin but there are questions of degree. Trump is far worse and has done nothing of merit. MLK Jr. did have extramarital affairs but he also did a lot of good in bringing the issue of racism to the country's attention. He was against it. Trump is for it.
 

FollowTheWay

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I think that Google has suppressed the part about Douglas being a slaveholder. Snopes recently tried to downplay the fact that Kamala Harris' Father says that his side of the family are descendants of slaveowners.
My bet is your ancestors were slaveowners. Right?
 

Revmitchell

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"All have sinned and come short of the glory of God." I don't defend any sin but there are questions of degree. Trump is far worse and has done nothing of merit. MLK Jr. did have extramarital affairs but he also did a lot of good in bringing the issue of racism to the country's attention. He was against it. Trump is for it.

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church mouse guy

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My bet is your ancestors were slaveowners. Right?

No, we were all Yankees and Republicans. I bet your ancestors were Democrats, right? And now the Dems stand tall for Antifa, abortion, same-sex marriage and calling people racists although the Dems were the party of slavery, Jim Crow, KKK, and the slavemaster Stephen A. Douglas.
 

just-want-peace

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True but it was a political problem for him since he was against slavery. His wife died young and he remarried. What does all this have to do with problems in Chicago as you initially stated?

"One of the worst Democrats was Stephen A. Douglas and yet the left does nothing to dismantle his putrid legacy in Chicago."

It’s very telling that you can’t (won’t???) see the blatant hypocrisy that is so obvious!!
 

Alcott

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"All have sinned and come short of the glory of God." I don't defend any sin but there are questions of degree. Trump is far worse and has done nothing of merit. MLK Jr. did have extramarital affairs but he also did a lot of good in bringing the issue of racism to the country's attention. He was against it. Trump is for it.

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FollowTheWay

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No, we were all Yankees and Republicans. I bet your ancestors were Democrats, right? And now the Dems stand tall for Antifa, abortion, same-sex marriage and calling people racists although the Dems were the party of slavery, Jim Crow, KKK, and the slavemaster Stephen A. Douglas.
I'm from KY. I had ancestors on both sides in the Civil war. Sadly, one died at the Battle of Appomattox Court House right before the end of the war.
 

FollowTheWay

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I made the point that I was not there. So these things are hearsay to me-- and to you, unless you were there. As to "documented facts--" only a very limited number of people know for certainty; those who saw the acts. And is there really any such thing as a documented fact of human interactions? Just as an example, consider the Warren Commission Report. Although I believe its *conclusion*, a majority of Americans don't. But it is, at its best, a conclusion; not a fact, such as gravity or air.
So you agree with Trump? There are no more facts, only ratings? WOW. That's WAY OLUT THERE!
 
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