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Yes, but in an entirely different context.
None of these things are sinful.
They're not parodies, they're simply singing popular tunes with relgious text. There are many hymns in the Christian hymnal that are secular tunes with sacred text applied. "Rejoice the Lord is King" is a good example. Even "O Sacred Head Now Wounded" came about this way, the tune taken from a 1601 love song called "
Are All My Feelings". And don't even get me started on "O Danny Boy"."To you"??? Individual taste or preference has no matter in this discussion. Music communicates without question. Therefore, music that communicates inappropriately is without redeeming value.
That indicates that your judgment is skewed. Many people have been taught that their judgment is the final rule of acceptability and truth. Nothing could be more wrong. The fact that you can find good in evil is simply not true. Your sense are not trained to discern between good and evil.
By "good," I mean good. Something can be well done in production, performance, and writing ... and still be objectively evil.
No, the statement is true, but in it, Paul is not talking about using worldly means to accomplish spiritual objectives. He is talking about morally neutral things, or things about which believers have liberties.
None of these things are sinful. </font>[/QUOTE]But all of them can be, and when music communicates them unrighteously, the music is sinful.
Perhaps the greater sin here is being ignorant of musical theory and history. You are comparing apples and oranges. We are talking things that are objectively wrong.They're not parodies, they're simply singing popular tunes with relgious text. There are many hymns in the Christian hymnal that are secular tunes with sacred text applied. "Rejoice the Lord is King" is a good example. Even "O Sacred Head Now Wounded" came about this way, the tune taken from a 1601 love song called "
Those who say this is wrong are simply ignorant of their own hymnal history.
Fortunately, that is completely irrelevant here since no one is doing that. If you associate this with Judiazers, it is only because you don't know what a Judaizer was. Liberty in Christ was never a biblical excuse for unrighteousness. The fact that we "could" do something was never a statemenet that "we should" do something. Paul said he gladly limited himself (becoming all thigns to all men) so that he could reach some. He was not willing to do everything that he could do because there was something greater at stake.
So have I. But that is irrelevant.
I completely agree. Why even bring this stupid stuff up? It is genuinely stupid.
None of these things are sinful. </font>[/QUOTE]But all of them can be, and when music communicates them unrighteously, the music is sinful. </font>[/QUOTE]How on earth can music communicate something unrighteously? Does it whisper bad thoughts in my ear? Does it magically penetrate the darkest recesses of my mind and flip all the "bad" switches on?
I think this kind of silly response indicates just how serious the lack of understanding of righteousness, communication, and culture really is in professing Christendom. Music communicates in a variety of ways, as is universally recognized except for those in CCM, or those who like to defend CCM. Not all CCM is bad or unrighteous, just as not all pop music is. But there certainly is bad music, unrighteous in its communication regardless of intent.
No, I'm not. I think you need to go back and read again.
Exactly, which is why music can be corrupted.
Of course music can't twist itself. But man has twisted music and used it unrighteously. Ungodly music comes from a heart that is ungodly.
Well then let's have it already. I'd rather have an answer to the question than this silly posture of wisdom. How does music communicate unrighteously?
By inciting ungodly passions or emotions, which music unquestionably does. It communicates unrighteousness by trivializing the majesty of God. It can do this a number of different ways.
No, that is only part of it.
To properly reflect truth, we have to say so. When Paul says to approve things that are good, he is talking about the things themselves, not simply the responses or motives of the heart. It is true that the heart is involved in evil. It is too limiting to say that only the heart is involved.
"To you"??? Individual taste or preference has no matter in this discussion. Music communicates without question. Therefore, music that communicates inappropriately is without redeeming value.
That indicates that your judgment is skewed. Many people have been taught that their judgment is the final rule of acceptability and truth. Nothing could be more wrong. The fact that you can find good in evil is simply not true. Your sense are not trained to discern between good and evil.
By "good," I mean good. Something can be well done in production, performance, and writing ... and still be objectively evil.
No, the statement is true, but in it, Paul is not talking about using worldly means to accomplish spiritual objectives. He is talking about morally neutral things, or things about which believers have liberties.