April 3, AD 33.

[church mouse guy]

I agree with: "Scripture says that we are in the last days but we do not know what day will be the last day ...", except I will add the word "... yet.", at the end.

I agree with: "We do know what year Jesus began his public ministry because Scripture and ancient Roman records tell us."

Let me know what you think of the pevious post - April 3, AD 33.

I listen to commentary on prophecy but I do not delve into the field much personally--I am on borrowed time--one only gets three score ten and I am beyond that and borrowing time from those who did not get their three score ten.

I do think that the major sign of the end of the coming tribulation, the gathering storm, is the apostasy of the church. I have copied some verses on that subject. I am not sure if I have the right ones but when something is repeated about four times, it is serious.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 (KJV) Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

1 Timothy 4:1-3 (KJV) Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, [and commanding] to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

2 Timothy 4:3-4 (KJV) For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Matthew 24:12 (KJV) And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

 

[church mouse guy]

Nisan 14, 31 AD. or April 25, 31 AD.

Okay. I have a question that maybe you can help me with. I don't know the answer so I have no viewpoint here but I recall this question from someone long ago and far away in a forgotten incident.

That is, how well would a corpse hold up for 72 exact hours in Israel at this time of the year?

 

[TCassidy]

That is, how well would a corpse hold up for 72 exact hours in Israel at this time of the year?

What difference does it make?

Psalm 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Acts 2:27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Acts 13:35 Wherefore he saith also in another psalm, Thou shalt not suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

 

[church mouse guy]

What difference does it make?

Psalm 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Acts 2:27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Acts 13:35 Wherefore he saith also in another psalm, Thou shalt not suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

A shorter schedule that was part of three days would duck the problem, wouldn't it?

I appreciate the Scripture that you have listed above, but I am just wondering about natural conditions in Israel?

 

[Saved-By-Grace]

Okay. I have a question that maybe you can help me with. I don't know the answer so I have no viewpoint here but I recall this question from someone long ago and far away in a forgotten incident.

That is, how well would a corpse hold up for 72 exact hours in Israel at this time of the year?

are you saying that the Almighty God of the Holy Bible, Who created the entire universe, is not able to do some things? If He wanted Jesus dead for a whole year, then He would have done so, and Jesus would have risen again with no problems. Please never limit the God of the Bible.

 

[Saved-By-Grace]

A shorter schedule that was part of three days would duck the problem, wouldn't it?

I appreciate the Scripture that you have listed above, but I am just wondering about natural conditions in Israel?

some of the redeemed have been in their graves for almost 2000 years, and our Great God will raise them up with new bodies again! Amen!!!

 

[church mouse guy]

are you saying that the Almighty God of the Holy Bible, Who created the entire universe, is not able to do some things? If He wanted Jesus dead for a whole year, then He would have done so, and Jesus would have risen again with no problems. Please never limit the God of the Bible.

No, I am not saying that anything is impossible for an omnipotent God. I am merely enquiring as to the physical conditions that would have been involved. In other words, was this done by normal processes or was there some sort of miracle involved? I don't know and the Moderator says that he has met the great John Warwick Montgomery so I figure that he may know.

John Warwick Montgomery and wife.

 

[Saved-By-Grace]

No, I am not saying that anything is impossible for an omnipotent God. I am merely enquiring as to the physical conditions that would have been involved. In other words, was this done by normal processes or was there some sort of miracle involved? I don't know and the Moderator says that he has met the great John Warwick Montgomery so I figure that he may know.

John Warwick Montgomery and wife.

God knows best!

 

[loDebar]

Friday is always the preparation day for the Bible Sabbath

Nissan 14 is Preparation day when all leaven is cleaned firm the house before Passover. Leaven is type of sin.

 

[Saved-By-Grace]

No, I am not saying that anything is impossible for an omnipotent God. I am merely enquiring as to the physical conditions that would have been involved. In other words, was this done by normal processes or was there some sort of miracle involved? I don't know and the Moderator says that he has met the great John Warwick Montgomery so I figure that he may know.

John Warwick Montgomery and wife.

Instead of the Moderator, or JWM, both like you and I, fallible humans, ask the Holy Spirit Who actually Inspired the writers of the Holy Bible. Some of the Moderators here have their Soteriology based on human understanding and not from the Word.

 

[TCassidy]

I don't know and the Moderator says that he has met the great John Warwick Montgomery so I figure that he may know.

Yes, I know John and Lanalee. What does that have to do with the OP?

 

[church mouse guy]

Yes, I know John and Lanalee. What does that have to do with the OP?

Wow, that makes you much higher in the food chain than me, and also higher on the totem pole, and also you might know how long a corpse could last before decay begins under natural conditions. I used to watch John Warwick Montgomery when he had a tv show years ago. He taught at the old Simon Greenleaf Law School I think. Didn't he win the God is dead debates years ago? Also, he is very funny. Missouri Lutherans are much like conservative Baptists.

 

[TCassidy]

you might know how long a corpse could last before decay begins under natural conditions.

When Lazarus died and Christ delayed going to the tomb for 3 days, when he opened the crypt his sister said "He stinks." So 3 days seems to be when corruption has caused such decay that it is noticeable.

He taught at the old Simon Greenleaf Law School I think.

He was dean at Simon Greenleaf. He is licensed to practice law in the US, Great Britain, France, before the International Court in The Hague and before the Supreme Court of the United States.

Didn't he win the God is dead debates years ago?

Yes, he did.

Also, he is very funny.

Yes, he has a great wit, but he can also be very caustic, especially if he thinks you are doing less than your best.

But he is, nevertheless, a great man. Very likely the smartest man I have ever met. "Brilliant" does not do justice to him.

But he is 86 and in declining health, as with so many of his peers. When they all finally pass away I really don't see anyone up and coming to replace them.

 

[One Baptism]

I listen to commentary on prophecy but I do not delve into the field much personally--I am on borrowed time--one only gets three score ten and I am beyond that and borrowing time from those who did not get their three score ten.

I do think that the major sign of the end of the coming tribulation, the gathering storm, is the apostasy of the church. I have copied some verses on that subject. I am not sure if I have the right ones but when something is repeated about four times, it is serious.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 (KJV) Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

1 Timothy 4:1-3 (KJV) Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, [and commanding] to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

2 Timothy 4:3-4 (KJV) For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Matthew 24:12 (KJV) And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

Good solid quotes, and an excellent sign of warning, indeed, more of a Matthew 25, than a Matthew 24 warning though. This has already happened in the past [see Daniel 7-12 KJB], in the great apostasy of the Romans, but it is happening again, as many are even now falling away to the Romans, even amongst the remnant ...

 

[BobRyan]

Nissan 14 is Preparation day when all leaven is cleaned firm the house before Passover. Leaven is type of sin.

Passover is the evening before the feast of unleavened bread - which was celebrated for 7 days and in the gospel accounts Passover is considered to be the first day of the feast of unleavened bread.

 

[loDebar]

no, the was a day of ceremonial cleansing, removing all leaven from the house, etc.


Lev 23:5
In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.
Lev 23:6
And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.

Exo 12:15

Seven days shall ye eat unleavened bread; even the first day ye shall put away leaven out of your houses: for whosoever eateth leavened bread from the first day until the seventh day, that soul shall be cut off from Israel

 

[loDebar]

Leaven as a type of sin was to be removed.

 

[loDebar]

Dr. Andreas Köstenberger is trying to affirm a Good Friday date which is an error.

 

[church mouse guy]

When Lazarus died and Christ delayed going to the tomb for 3 days, when he opened the crypt his sister said "He stinks." So 3 days seems to be when corruption has caused such decay that it is noticeable....

So how did Jesus avoid corruption if He had to serve 72 hours in the tomb?

 

[TCassidy]

So how did Jesus avoid corruption if He had to serve 72 hours in the tomb?

Go back and read the verses I quoted in post #63.