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Are Immunizations unhealthy and sinful?

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Ed Edwards

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Title question: "Are Immunizations unhealthy and sinful?"

Immunizations increase the health of
the country. Nothing in the Bible indicates
there is anything sinful about immunizations.
 
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Paul33

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From the Foreword of the book Immunization:

"James compares modern vaccines - laden with formaldehyde, mercury, dog kidney tissue - with the 'eye of newt and toe of frog' added to the brew of Macbeth's witches. She wisely comments: 'Is it too impudent to suggest that man has long had a love affair with decomposing animal proteins, noxious potions that ward off the deamons of ill fortune?'"

Robert S. Mendelsohn, M.D.
 
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Paul33

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Have we as Christians unwittingly involved ourselves with the potions of witchcraft and sorcery?

If you knew what was in the vaccines, you would have to wonder. Again, Moses, who was trained in all of the knowledge and wisdom of the Egyptians was not allowed by God to teach this wisdom to the Israelites. God had Moses teach the Israelites different principles for health and safety.

But we take modern vaccines that are nothing more than the concoctions of ancient Egyptian pharmaceuticals at best and the potions of witchcraft at worst! Yikes!
 
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rivers1222

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From the 95 per cent of us who immunize our kids to the 5 per cent who dont: you're welcome.

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Paul33 writes:
Have we as Christians unwittingly involved ourselves with the potions of witchcraft and sorcery?
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Incredible. I would call it availing ourselves and being thankful for, the blessings that God has given us.
 
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Paul33

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Blessings?

The medical principles that God gave Moses are opposed to the medical principles of vaccines!

You obviously have no idea what is in vaccines, do you?
 
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Ed Edwards

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Originally posted by Paul33:
Have we as Christians unwittingly involved ourselves with the potions of witchcraft and sorcery?
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No.

1 Thessalonians 5:18 (KJV 1611 Edition):
In euery thing giue thankes: for this is
the will of God in Christ Iesus concerning you.

Lord God, we thank you for the wonderful
doctors and medical administrators and government
officials You gave us,
that have given us protection
for our children from killing viruses and
bacteria. Amen.
 
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Paul33

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Here's what the medical establishment has given us:

DPT contains formaldehyde, mercury, aluminum phosphate.

Polio vaccine conatains monkey kidney cell structure, lactalbumin hydrolysate, antibiotics, calf serum.

MMR contains chick embryo and neomycin.

"Chick embryo, monkey kidney cells, and calf serum are foreign proteins, biological substances composed of animal cells, which because they enter directly into the bloodstream can become part of our genetic material." James, 10, citing World Medicine, Sept. 22, 1971, pp. 69-72; New Medical Journals Limited, Clareville House, pp. 26-27, Oxendon st., London, J.W. 1X4 EL, England.
 
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TexasSky

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Actually,

I know perfectly well what goes into vaccines, and it doesn't matter. Anything is harmful if taken in the wrong combination or the wrong amounts.

The fact is, medicine heals and vaccines prevent illness. I suppose you don't ever take any medications - antibiotics, aspirin, etc. I hope you enjoy the short life you will have.

There is nothing sinful about using gifts from God.
 
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Ed Edwards

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Walene James is a new age writer and a free lancer, writing
what sells. It is poor scholarship to use her to prove anything.
 
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Paul33

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What sells?

Pharmaceutical companies have a vested interest in promoting their theory of disease and their cures.

Dr. Mendelsohn and other doctors who disagree with the medical establishment have nothing to gain and everything to lose.

But they speak the truth in love and take the abuse people like you dish out.
 
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rivers1222

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Originally posted by Paul33:
Blessings?

The medical principles that God gave Moses are opposed to the medical principles of vaccines!

You obviously have no idea what is in vaccines, do you?
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Nor can I know everything that was pumped into my 5 and a half old month premature son when he was in a neo-natal ICU for 3 months. I know it was everything form caffine to steroids and probably a lot of stuff in between. His immune system, as in all premies, was very week. The most important thing they stressed was to be sure he had all his immunization shots.

To compare this to "ancient Egyptian pharmaceuticals and potions of witchcraft" are an afront to a very healthy and happy 6 year old boy and thousands like him.

If you dont want to immunize your kids because of conviction, thats fine. I really do understand. But dont go cutting on those who do and claim its scriptual.
 
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Paul33

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rivers,

Glad to hear that your son is fine.

You are comparing apples with oranges, though.

What is necessary for a premature birth is not the same thing that is necessary for a normal birth.
 
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Paul33

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An internet search of Walene James and new age brings up nothing. Perhaps she is. I don't know. But Ed, you are wrong about so many of your "facts" that it would be reasonable to discount your assertion. Even if it is true, what does her religion have to do with "scholarship."

Using your reasoning, we should reject immunizations because the vast majority of those who support them in the medical profression are evolutionists and materialists.
 
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TexasSky

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I'm glad your son came through.
 
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Paul33

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It is compulsory in every state, meaning "required" by statute, unless you exempt yourself.

That's why the media can report, "No shots, no school." But if one digs a little further, one discovers that one has the right to exempt themselves from the compulsory requirment.

So she is correct.

Hey Ed, why don't you document for me Walene James' new age propensities.

And you were the one to state that Oklahome requires immunization without any right to exempt. I'm still waiting for you to say that you were mistaken, wrong, incorrect, misled, etc. Take your pick.
 
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Ed Edwards

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Paul33: "An internet search of Walene James and new age brings up nothing."

Strange, when i use Google to search for //"Walene James" "new age"//
i get 61 hits. IMHO "brings up nothing" and '61 hits' are NOT
the same.
 
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rlvaughn

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Funny, i thought vaccination was optional in all states, not compulsory as Walene James states? ?? - ED
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There are compulsory vaccination laws and there are exceptions to them. Ed, just admit you were wrong about the law and move on.
 
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