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Now take each passage and show how they supposedly teach the doctrine of Purgatory.

 

When you start with a false premise, the only thing that can follow is a false conclusion. There were no bishops in the Catholic meaning in the NT. A NT bishop was simply the pastor of a local church. The terms "bishop", "pastor", "elder", overseer", presbyter", were synonyms for the same office. And the NT knows nothing of a "diocese".

 

What? And here I thought Peter was traveling from Jerusalem to Rome in his own Popemobile...

 

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Well, it would have been pulled by a camel or something in the first century.

I'm sure he would have worn a mitre, too, just as the picture shows.

 

It is simply a parable showing us the importance of forgiveness and that is all.

The trouble here is that Christ did not use the KJV. :laugh:
It is the Greek that is inspired. And the word "perfect" means "complete."
Every Christian is "complete in Christ," but no Christian is "perfect." That is a 17th century word that had a slightly different meaning over 400 years ago when the KJV was written.

(WNT) You however are to be complete in goodness, as your Heavenly Father is complete.

How ridiculous!
First, the context. Don't pull Scripture out of context!
Mat 12:22 Then was brought unto him one possessed with a devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw.
--Jesus healed one that was blind and dumb. He was also possessed by an evil spirit.

Mat 12:24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.
--The Pharisees attributed this miracle to another spirit, not the Spirit of God; they attributed it to Satan (specifically "Lord of the flies," as the name means).

Mat 12:27 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.
--Jesus rebuke and rebuttal. If He cast spirits out by the devil, then which power did they use?

Then His conclusion (which you have taken out of context)
Mat 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
Mat 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
--The Pharisees had attributed the works of Jesus done through the Spirit of God to Satan, an evil spirit. They, being in the flesh, had heard Jesus in the flesh, work miracles. They had heard him, seen him, and witnessed his miracles. Now they were attributing those very miracles to Satan when they should be attributing them to God the Holy Spirit and admitting that Christ was deity.
This was blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, a sin which I do not believe can be committed today.

--Contrary to what you say, it does not say there is forgiveness after death; it says there is no forgiveness after death, none whatsoever!
--It proves quite the opposite, that there is no purgatory.

This is a parable that has to do with the Coming of the Lord:
uk 12:46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.
Luk 12:47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
Luk 12:48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.
Luk 12:49 I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?
--When he comes there will be judgment. All will stand before him (here he is speaking of unbelievers, specifically the Jews), and each will receive according to their due. Read the rest of the chapter and put it into context.
The simple truth is: Will you be prepared for his Coming. Are you then prepared to stand before him at the Judgment. As an unbeliever you will be judged according to your works, and will receive punishment according to your deeds. Of course the Jews looked forward to entering the Kingdom, and Christ may have been speaking of His Coming before entering into the Kingdom as the Jews expected--nothing to do with heaven, hell or purgatory.

Luk 16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
--That is not what the Scripture says.

1. Paul refers to a pagan practice of "baptism of the dead," and that is what it was--pagan. Notice, he uses the word "Those" who baptize for the dead, not "we." It was an argument used against the resurrection, in contradistinction to the resurrection. Baptism did not bring new life; did not bring about a resurrection. You are describing a Mormon practice, a Hindu practice, but not a Christian practice.
2. Maccabees is not in the Scriptures, is inspired; I don't have to deal with that.

Those that add to the scriptures every plague that is in the book shall be added unto them.
What does that verse say:
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Every knee shall bow to Christ. Period. There is no purgatory. No matter where you are or have been, you will bow the knee to Christ. Don't read into scripture that which is not there.
Even if you are on the planet Mars by that time, you cannot escape God; or His judgment.

You don't know what you are talking about and you are taking the verse out of context.
First:
2Ti 4:16 At my first answer no man stood with me, but all men forsook me: I pray God that it may not be laid to their charge.
--Paul had already stood before Nero once. No one came to his defense. He stood alone.
2Ti 4:19 Salute Prisca and Aquila, and the household of Onesiphorus.
--What gives you the idea that Onesiphorus is dead. He is not.

2Ti 1:16 The Lord give mercy unto the house of Onesiphorus; for he oft refreshed me, and was not ashamed of my chain:
2Ti 1:17 But, when he was in Rome, he sought me out very diligently, and found me.
2Ti 1:18 The Lord grant unto him that he may find mercy of the Lord in that day: and in how many things he ministered unto me at Ephesus, thou knowest very well.
--It was Paul that was in prison and Onesiphorus came to help him, refresh him, as it were. There is nothing eschatological about this passage at all. Paul doesn't salute dead people. How ridiculous.
In verse 18 Paul doesn't pray for dead people, contrary to RCC teaching. If you must know "where," Onesiphorus was in Ephesus!

 

I have complete and entire holiness right now and that is why if I died right now I would go to heaven. When the Lord looks down on me, he does not see sin (that has all been forgiven) he sees the holiness and righteousness of Jesus Christ. There is no purgatory. A belief in purgatory is to spit in the face of Christ telling him that his blood was not sufficient; his sacrifice was too little; his payment for sins was not enough. It is a blasphemous doctrine!

There is no purgatory.
Look at another translation:
(ISV) to the assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, to a judge who is the God of all, to the spirits of righteous people who have been made perfect,
"the spirits of the righteous who have been made perfect." That is the meaning of this verse.

No, that is not what this is.

1Pe 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
1Pe 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
--These were very evil spirits that directly disobeyed or rebelled against God, causing the Flood. They have been designated a special place of suffering. Verse 19 is better translated: "proclaimed victory." He did not go there preaching the gospel. There is no second chance. You know very well that Purgatory is for believers not for the damned. These rebellious spirits are part of Satan's minions. Are you telling me that Satan and his demons will be in Purgatory and then in heaven?? Ludicrous!!!!

Hogwash!
This is a description of the "eternal state" the new heaven and the new earth, as compared to the old, or even the Millennial Kingdom. It is a comparison and that is all. There is no mention of a purgatory.
Did you know that there are aliens from Mars in the Bible? They came from another solar system. They once invaded our planet. Some of them still inhabit our earth and dwell in caves in South Dakota somewhere near Mt. Rushmore. There is a branch of the U.S. air force currently looking into this. It is all true!! Do you know how I know all this? The same way you know that there is a Purgatory. It is all in the Bible. I can point it out to you. Verse by verse if you like. You can read anything into the Bible that you want to.
An argument from silence is no argument at all.

An argument from silence is no argument at all!
This is speaking of the eternal state--a new heaven and a new earth. It is a simple comparison. There is no purgatory here.

That is the same argument that the J.W.'s use. Are you among the cults?
My answer--yes. It doesn't prove a purgatory. It is an argument from silence.

God's understanding was that if they prayed to the dead it was necromancy and they were stoned to death. They didn't pray for the dead either as their eternal destiny was already set, and they knew it!
--In Genesis 50:10, for example, just like today, They mourned!
There is no prayer for the dead, to the dead, etc. Why the deception?
Why the lies? There is no purgatory.
An argument from silence is no argument at all.

This book is not inspired; it is more like a fable.

 

There is nothing here called purgatory.
What is the context?

Zec 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
Zec 9:10 And I will cut off the chariot from Ephraim, and the horse from Jerusalem, and the battle bow shall be cut off: and he shall speak peace unto the heathen: and his dominion shall be from sea even to sea, and from the river even to the ends of the earth.
Zec 9:11 As for thee also, by the blood of thy covenant I have sent forth thy prisoners out of the pit wherein is no water.
--It speaks a bit of His first coming, but the major part is about the Second Coming of Christ when He will put down the enemies of Israel and set up His Kingdom "from sea to sea." Nothing to do with the imaginary fable of Purgatory.
An argument from silence is no argument at all.

--Not an inspired book. No time for such nonsense.

The early Christians did not believe in Purgatory. It was an invention of man. It is not found in the Bible. It is found as much as aliens from Mars and their spaceships landing in South Dakota. Both Purgatory and the alien story can be proven on an equal basis--called eisigesis.

The RCC has never used the Holy Spirit, never had the Holy Spirit to use.
One of the first acts of the RCC was to go and slaughter people by the sword of Constantine. The Holy Spirit does not act that way.
By a papal bull of Innocent III they wiped out the Albigenses. Truly an act of God, don't you think? Of course in your mind that is how Godly people should act--through bloody inquisitions and crusades.
The RCC had nothing to do with giving us the Scriptures.
It is God that gave us the Scriptures and God that preserved the Scriptures to this day, in spite of the fact that the RCC was found burning Bibles and doing their best to keep the Word of God out of the hands of the common person.

No, the RCC is doing its best to send people to hell through a false gospel.

 

You have no idea what you are talking about.
I check any questionable verse with the Greek NT, the same Greek that your English translation came from. The NT, all NT's came from Greek MSS. You don't have a different Bible, just a different translation. It doesn't matter to me what translation I use. Purgatory is not in any of them. It has to be read into the Bible from an argument of silence--just like aliens from Mars and spaceships landing in South Dakota. They both have the same evidence--none!!

 

is it really biblical for us to allow these Roman Catholic Heretics to be running around here promoting their soul damning false doctrines?

Why don't we ban Catholics who deny salvation by grace through faith alone?

 

Its a debate forum. Plenty of voices to call them out on their doctrines.