Are You a Calvinist or a Non-Cal?

[Thousand Hills]

I didn't vote, I've decided to identify myself as a Peculiar Baptist.:saint:

1 Peter 2:9-10 9But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; 10Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

:godisgood:

 

[Amy.G]

I didn't vote, I've decided to identify myself as a Peculiar Baptist.:saint:

:godisgood:

:laugh::laugh:

 

[jonathan.borland]

I voted, because I wanted to get a general lay of BB land on this oft-discussed issue. I hope more people will vote!

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Answer me this question....how long do you reckon that Calvinistic beliefs have been around....give me a time-line.

 

[jonathan.borland]

Ignatius, Justin, and Irenaeus all predate Augustine by a good distance; the former would seem to be in the non-Calvinist camp.

 

[JonC]

Answer me this question....how long do you reckon that Calvinistic beliefs have been around....give me a time-line.

Certainly Augustine held to total depravity and substitutionary atonement. They are incorporated in John Calvin’s views. But “Calvinism” as many would see it is definitely post-Calvin. I think that we could date it to Beza. Beza answered questions that arose by viewing Scripture through a “Calvinistic” lens. But if you drop off limited atonement (the type that would say Christ was a propitiation for our sins, and the sins of the whole world meaning the elect around the world) – then you get Calvin. Beyond Calvin, the next step in my view is Luther. So, I pick Beza or Calvin.

 

[Alive in Christ]

Yep, I'm one of those DoGs.

Some might call me a Junkyard DoG.

Tom

I am very very strongly grounded in Gods wonderfull Doctrins of Grace. Praise God for them. What glorious liberty and freedom we have as children of the King.

However, I have long since reputiated the calvinism that I once held to.

I think of it now as sort of an "anti-grace" theology.

I just got to where I couldnt be part of it anymore

 

[jonathan.borland]

Only 30 voters so far. It would be good of 100 of us would vote!

 

[convicted1]

I didn't vote, I've decided to identify myself as a Peculiar Baptist.:saint:

1 Peter 2:9-10 9But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; 10Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

:godisgood:

I could call myself an "odd-ball" baptist, but there's a lodge that goes by "odd fellows", and they might confuse me with them....:laugh:

 

[convicted1]

Only 30 voters so far. It would be good of 100 of us would vote!

the count is 33 votes now: 21 NC and 11 C.....


come on NC's and vote......:laugh:

 

[David Lamb]

Only 30 voters so far. It would be good of 100 of us would vote!

Why 100 (rather than, say, 300 or 650, Jonathan? To make it easier to work out percentages? :laugh:

 

[jonathan.borland]

I just know from certain Bible version polls in that forum that it takes 3-4 months at least to keep the poll active to get up to 100 votes on the BB, and the more who vote the more accurate the result, on average.

 

[Ed B]

I answered it in a general way as i would if someone asked if I am a Baptists. Yes, but that label has lots of wiggle room and many Calvinist/Baptist might not consider me a good or fully compliant Calvinist/Baptist depending on the issue of the day.

 

[jonathan.borland]

I answered it in a general way as i would if someone asked if I am a Baptists. Yes, but that label has lots of wiggle room and many Calvinist/Baptist might not consider me a good or fully compliant Calvinist/Baptist depending on the issue of the day.

Thanks for voting. The ratio of non-Cal to Cal so far is roughly 3:2.

 

[DaChaser1]

That also depends on how these are defined. God does everything from reaching out to us, providing a means of salvation, etc...yet He requires faith. It's not an either / or, it's both.

He requires us to have faith in order to accept jesus and get saved, he also knows NONE of us have it within ourselves, so He grants that as a gift towards His elect!

 

[Jon-Marc]

Although my pastor is a Calvinist, I am not. It is the only Baptist church within 50 miles of me.

 

[menageriekeeper]

^^^not a Calvinist^^^

 

[jonathan.borland]

Thanks for taking time to vote. Currently of BB members who decided to participate in the poll, more consider themselves non-Calvinists by a ratio of 6:3.

 

[jonathan.borland]

Thanks for voting. Now there are 37 who have elected. The question is, was their vote predetermined or simply foreknown?

 

[Michael Wrenn]

Thanks for voting. Now there are 37 who have elected. The question is, was their vote predetermined or simply foreknown?

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