Are you OK with professional sports teams public support of recent cop protests?

[InTheLight]

Have you ever noticed some pro players being a spokesman for a product - but they are not wearing the uniform of their team. (They may be in a "uniform" but with no name.) They must do that, as they do not have the permission of the team and/or league to do the spot.

The reason you don't see players wearing uniforms in ads is because the NBA has their own sponsors they are responsible for and contractually obliged to represent.

So close....The reason is the company with the product that is being pitched by the athlete has chosen not to pay the exorbitant licensing fees to allow them to show the team logo, or else the league has decided not to give the company a license to use their trademarked images.

 

[Use of Time]

Or is it they are afraid to



I am quite aware of that

Were you aware of that? It didn't seem like it. Again, it would be interesting to see if there was any outrage with Tim Tebow wearing bible verses on his eye black patches. Or is it possible that the outrage over this is over has something to do with the fact that people here disagree with the statement these players are making.

It's possible that they are afraid to do something about it. Then again its possible that it is a total nonissue for them.

 

[InTheLight]

I'm having fun. Some of you take yourselves so seriously. :laugh:

But here's a fact for you. Athletes coming out of high school can receive a full scholarship and attend college with a 2.0 GPA. and that was just increased. It was lower. Non athletes as a general rule have to have a 3.0 GPA to be admitted to college even if they pay their own way.

As the father of a high school senior applying to colleges, what you have stated is not a fact. Each college has their own requirements. Most athletic scholarships are given with little or no regard for the high school academic record, but as a college student they are supposed to attain at least a 2.0 GPA. Your statement about non-athletes minimum GPA is not a universal fact either. It depends on the institution.

So don't kid yourself by thinking athletes are held to the same acedemic standards as others.

Nobody was saying that. I still want to know why you think most of the NBA players could not pass an 8th grade aptitude test.

 

[carpro]

As the father of a high school senior applying to colleges, this is not a fact. Each college has their own requirements. Most athletic scholarships are given with little or no regard for the high school academic record, but as a college student they are supposed to attain at least a 2.0 GPA. Your statement about non-athletes minimum GPA is not a universal fact either. It depends on the institution.

The NCAA requires a 2.0 to get a scholarship and a 2.3 to play. Look it up. Individual schools may require more, but not less.

As for the rest, what is it about "generally" that you don't understand?

BTW The NCAA rule is new. Starts in 2015. The standard was lower.

 

[Use of Time]

So close....The reason is the company with the product that is being pitched by the athlete has chosen not to pay the exorbitant licensing fees to allow them to show the team logo, or else the league has decided not to give the company a license to use their trademarked images.

Ah yes, that is the primary reason of course. Video games have this same issue with the players unions with regards to using their likenesses and names in league licensed games. If permission was not received you would see rosters where the players had the same skin color, position and attributes of their counterparts without their actual names being used. Video game companies could get around this by making the names editable which would allow players to change the names themselves. Tedious but effective.

I thought I remember a basketball player in the 90's that had an issue with the NBA over competing brands (think it was a shoe) I think the licensing agreement was an issue in that one too though so I don't know if competing brand uses in a legitimate team uniform was the main factor or not.

 

[Use of Time]

I'm having fun. Some of you take yourselves so seriously. :laugh:

But here's a fact for you. Athletes coming out of high school can receive a full scholarship and attend college with a 2.0 GPA. and that was just increased. It was lower. Non athletes as a general rule have to have a 3.0 GPA to be admitted to college even if they pay their own way.

So don't kid yourself by thinking athletes are held to the same acedemic standards as others.

As for me, I attended college 2 years and carried a 3.8 GPA and held down a full time job while I was at it. I finished my education in the jungles of SE Asia and never made it back to school. Happy?

Yeah, it's fun to try to pin racism on others isn't it. Looks like you were having a blast in here.

The rest is a nice strawman though. You have now changed the subject to academic standards which of course has not been brought up by anyone. You also made the statement that most of the players in the NBA didn't even finish college implying that they were unintelligent. You yourself just admitted that you didn't finish college. You turned out okay didn't you? I think you even called them "mental midgets" when most of them have the same or more education than you yourself have. This came around nicely.

 

[InTheLight]

I thought I remember a basketball player in the 90's that had an issue with the NBA over competing brands (think it was a shoe) I think the licensing agreement was an issue in that one too though so I don't know if competing brand uses in a legitimate team uniform was the main factor or not.

Some teams have contracts with equipment manufacturers whereby they are contractually obligated to wear "X" brand of shoe, or "Y" brand of uniform. (This happens a lot in college, they need the free equipment.) This is getting so bad that even Little League Baseball® requires players in the L.L. World Series to only use Easton brand bats (or else no branding graphics whatsoever on the bat.)

You might be thinking of a case where a player wore a different brand of shoe in violation of the team contract. Players get around that now by wearing a different shoe, but sewing on the required brand's logo.

In a lot of ads you will see a player with the exact color uniform, with their team uniform number sewed on (though not in the same font as the official uniform), and with the same color cap or helmet. Only thing missing is the team name and/or logo. That's how they get around the product licensing requirement, which is typically something like a $500,000 upfront fee and then 9% royalties on all sales.

 

[Use of Time]

Some teams have contracts with equipment manufacturers whereby they are contractually obligated to wear "X" brand of shoe, or "Y" brand of uniform. (This happens a lot in college, they need the free equipment.) This is getting so bad that even Little League Baseball® requires players in the L.L. World Series to only use Easton brand bats (or else no branding graphics whatsoever on the bat.)

You might be thinking of a case where a player wore a different brand of shoe in violation of the team contract. Players get around that now by wearing a different shoe, but sewing on the required brand's logo.

In a lot of ads you will see a player with the exact color uniform, with their team uniform number sewed on (though not in the same font as the official uniform), and with the same color cap or helmet. Only thing missing is the team name and/or logo. That's how they get around the product licensing requirement, which is typically something like a $500,000 upfront fee and then 9% royalties on all sales.

Oh yeah, have you been following the headphone drama in the NFL? That has become another odd little battle.

 

[carpro]

Yeah, it's fun to try to pin racism on others isn't it. Looks like you were having a blast in here.

You should know. You've spent enough time trying to pin it on me. and that's right. I was having a blast.

ITL is no racist. I was just poking him for bringing race into it.

 

[Use of Time]

You should know. You've spent enough time trying to pin it on me. and that's right. I was having a blast.

ITL is no racist. I was just poking him for bringing race into it.

Yeah I do it all the time to you.:laugh: Maybe you ought to apologize to him for blatant trolling.

 

[carpro]

The rest is a nice strawman though. You have now changed the subject to academic standards which of course has not been brought up by anyone. You also made the statement that most of the players in the NBA didn't even finish college implying that they were unintelligent.

I'll leave the intelligence argument to you. You're the only one that's mentioned it. It's going to be a one sided argument. You shouldn't have any trouble winning it.

 

[Use of Time]

I'll leave the intelligence argument to you. You're the only one that's mentioned it. It's going to be a one sided argument. You shouldn't have any trouble winning it.

You should wear your shoes backwards today to help with all the backpeddling. You totally never mentioned intelligence with your comments about "mental midgets," graduation rates and academic standards. Nice form on the backstroke. :thumbsup:

 

[InTheLight]

Oh yeah, have you been following the headphone drama in the NFL? That has become another odd little battle.

Yep, that's another facet of the same issue.

 

[InTheLight]

ITL is no racist. I was just poking him for bringing race into it.

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