Pardi
Originally posted by Pardi:
I believe Adams will was free before the fall
do you mean that God did not control Adam's will then? and that God only forknew what Adam will decide rather than cause it?
Originally posted by Pardi:
In no way do I suggest that God is the author of sin in any way! But what Scripture says is that He can (and does) control man's wills!! (Psalm 135:6, Proverbs 21:1).
did God cause Adam to sin then? if yes, God authored sin, as He authored salvation. no way around.
Originally posted by Pardi:
If it was otherwise, Calvary could have just been forseen by God and not decreed, which is contrary to Scripture (Acts 4:28). [Can you imagine what would have happened if the Jewish leaders chose not to crucify our Lord...I don't even want to think about it]
There is just no way to get around that.
God caused the Calvary to happen. and God has the ability to control man's volition, if He wills to. however, did God will for Adam to disobey? no! in fact, God forbid him. there is no way to get around that either.
taken, man does not really have free will after the fall. in fact, scripture say that man is wicked. God does not want man in that state though. if God is causing man to be in that state, then God is contradicting His own will.
your example is on Calvary, where men crucified Jesus Christ. how about when a christian sins. did God cause him too? no! otherwise, God will be violating His own will. but God decrees that christians will make their decisions. that is what God decreed - not actually what christians will decide. the same is the case for Adam.