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Arrogance of changing Scripture

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by loDebar, Apr 30, 2018.

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  1. John of Japan

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    Okay, that explains it. I don't consider dictionary.com to be a reliable source.

    And reading the definition of humanism, I'm still not a humanist. I don't live my life based on what benefits humans, but on what glorifies God. I love my neighbor not because of value in my neighbor but because God commands it and my neighbor is valuable to Him.
     
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    Really? This thread is getting more and more bizarre.
     
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    he appears to be claiming that we were all in heaven before being physical born here on Earth, as some kind of Spiritual beings, the "sons of God", in Job, and so is either holding to Mormonism, or little gods, either way wrong!
     
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    God said all-judgement was left to the Son

    Mat 5:29

    And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast itfrom thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
     
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    We are all sinners, correct? Were we angels before we cme here, or what?
     
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    not Mormons because they consider being human necessary for all beings to promote those in Heaven. They believe the earth will be better and better until good bough to be join with Heaven. They also believed Jesus is a lessor created being. similisrf to Islam. In reality this universe is a prison for the condemned
     
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    This universe will one day be glorified, and we will exist in a redeemed Universe, correct?
    Is there a real hell then? Or is earth that?
     
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    They were sent here in darkness , before light anyway
    Jde 1:6
    And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

    Gen 1:2
    And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

    They responded to light when being in darkness

    Job 38:7

    When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God (elohyim, again) shouted for joy
     
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    Matthew 5:27-29
    27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY’; 28 but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.​

    Since you brought it up ... Have you ever looked at a woman with lust? ... Does your eye cause you to sin? ... Have you plucked it out yet? ... Why not?

    PS. The 'FATHER' gave all judgement to the 'SON' ... GOD is 'Father, Son and Spirit' - one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; Neither confounding the Persons; nor dividing the Essence.
     
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    ? The universe will be destroyed? .... Hell, (place of the dead) andthe lake of fire exists. Hell is overused as eternal punishment but we mean lake of fire
     
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    The Son says He does not judge flesh and blood. either

    The three are divisible, Jesus seems to have full responsibility of the sinners
     
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    So you feel free to lust with impunity?
     
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    Hell is not in the universe, It is a spiritual place. The physical will be destroyed
     
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    The verse is saying the spirit is more important than the physical, Sin is not physical it is spiritual. Lust is not action of the body but the mind
     
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    So all of us were before coming here the fallen angels?
     
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    God Himself creates a new heaven and earth, those are real and physical, correct?
     
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    God honors the physical though, as jesus came in human flesh, and was raised a physical being, and we all will be like that, correct?
     
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    i doubt it, the physical creation sole reason for existence is for prison to hold sinners and the redemption of sinners through humanity
     
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    I doubt it, for the same reasons, Jesus did resurrect physically because it was proof to use of truth.

    I do not want this body , do I get to change?
     
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    I suspect the patrons and workers in the Gentlemen's Clubs that line the highway would disagree. Sin is both of the body and the mind.

    James 1:14-15 NASB
    14 But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust. 15 Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin [fn]is accomplished, it brings forth death.​
     
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